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Old 12-13-2013, 01:38 PM   #11
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There is not such thing as a brush cartridge. Use your scope to pick your shots and place them well. Shooting thru brush is a beginners mistake.
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Read an awful lot about the 708 and I love it for years
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Follow Hardluk1's advise. Your .270 which is in fact a 7MM or 6.8 MM 06. 7MM conveted to inches is .275 your .270 is .277. The .284 is 7.2MM so you can see we are counting "Frog" hairs. The numbers are so fine?
"Brush" rifles are like "Sound" shots in a word reckless. It is a hunter's responsibility to only take a shot under safe conditions.
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30-06 is on my list of guns to own. I only found 2 manufacturers that make them in left handed bolt action. Remington and Ruger. The ruger m77 hawkeye standard is a good looking gun. Dont get me wrong I really lole remington but dont really feel like spending $1000 on the model 700 cdl.
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30-06 is on my list of guns to own. I only found 2 manufacturers that make them in left handed bolt action. Remington and Ruger. The ruger m77 hawkeye standard is a good looking gun. Dont get me wrong I really lole remington but dont really feel like spending $1000 on the model 700 cdl.
You can get one in a Savage for 1/3rd of that, with a scope !............
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Savage has them in left handed?
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=381124590

There you go.
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:15 PM   #18
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I have a friend who swears by the 7mm Mag. It's a very flat

shooting round. Two major drawbacks are recoil and blast, and

it's @2$ and up for decent cartridges. I'm given to understand it goes

over 300 yards almost flat.

I try to get not only an advantage by caliber, but also by taking

advantage of as many usable rifle features as possible.

I'm going to step out on a limb and recommend a Mossberg MVP Predator.

In 5.56, it also shoots .223, is a bolt action, uses standard AR Mags,

and is a great size for brush. Short range, 5.56 is very

flat shooting, being a 22 magnum. Low recoil makes it fast on followup shots.

Short range, 5.56 has great penetration and power. When you can't find any

hunting rounds in 5.56, something good in .223 is usually available.

And this little Mossberg wont break the bank.

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A brush gun doesn't refer to the ability of a bullet to go through brush. Bullets don't go through brush and stay on target so you should never even think about shooting through brush. A brush gun refers to how well a rifle works in the thick brush, and that means short and maneuverable with a cartridge that will drop game quick. You don't want to go trying to track something like a deer or a hog in thick brush.

A 7mm mag is not a brush gun. The barrels are longer on magnum calibers and the bullet is moving too fast at close range. That means they aren't very maneuverable or easy to carry in thick brush so it isn't going to handle well. It will also go clean through a deer and keep on going. That means a lot of the energy it has is never used on the deer. A 7mm-08 could make a great brush gun. You can get smaller rifles in that caliber and it's a really good general purpose cartridge.

30-30's are one of the best brush guns ever but that's in part because of the lever action rifles that 30-30's generally come in. Those lever action rifles are short, maneuverable, and offer fast follow up shots. They also come with good iron sights that can be a lot more useful in the thick brush than a scope. The caliber itself is also ideal because it hits hard at close range and most of the energy is expended on the animal. 35 Remington is also great and so is a 45/70 for the same reasons, but they more kick than a 30-30 and a 30-30 is more than enough for any whitetail with in 200 yards. A 30-30 is also easier to shoot off handed or in odd positions because it has less recoil, that to can come in handy in thick brush.
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I myself am a big fan of the 7mm magnum, I have taken a lot of game with my Mauser 98 in various terrains, weather conditions, and distances, it has always served me well. I reload so I can stoke it for elk with Nosler Partitions or load it down with Sierra Game Kings for deer and prairie goats. It is expensive to shoot factory fodder but if you pick up some dies you have a lot of options and I heartily agree that shooting through brush is fool hearty at best, pick a good shot, and brush rifles to me, are the fast handling rifles,, I have a couple, but I always seem to grab the Mauser instead,, it just shoots so well,, the rifles you already own are in fine loads for a good deal of hunting situations,, but it's so much fun getting a new rifle though,, have fun.
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