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Old 03-24-2014, 06:04 AM   #21
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Actually they are two totally different cartages. The 35 was originally designed for use in the old Remington autos, rimless.
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I just got my 'American Rifleman' and noticed they have an article on reloading the 35 Remington. I have not looked at it yet, but if you are going to reload for this round it might be worthwhile to check it out.

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9.3x57 sounds like a good cartridge - but I can't remember seeing them stocked anywhere.

Here in the US, .35 Remington ( the subject of this topic ) is relatively easy to find.

I would hazard a guess that the .35 Remington, a proven deer cartridge, is not only easier to find but less expensive, and more comfortable to shoot than the 9.3x57.

Shooters of the 9.3x62 would make comments about the 9.3x57 - very similar to yours about the .35 Remington, then the .35 Whelen shooters would kick in, then we would eventually hear from the .358 Norma magnum crowd etc, etc..

The topic here is the .35 Remington - and I'm pointing out that it works out well in the small ring Mausers, and barrels chambered for the .35 Remington are readily available for those actions... That's all.

Of course there are larger cartridges, but here we are talking about the .35 Remington.
I was only commenting about the small ring, pre '98 Mauser, that you brought up!. Your not going to find a 9.3x62(ehh), 9.3x72r, .35 Whelan, .358 norma mag or any other higher pressure round in them. You do find 8x57 in Turk M95's, but there are strictly collectors pieces. Every cartridge you named is to long for the action also. There are a few in 9.3x62, but I'm not pulling the trigger. I stated that the .35 Remington got me interested in low pressure larger bore rifles. I only responded to your post. BTW, The 9.3x57 shoots like a .223 on steriods with a 286gr bullet. Very easy shooter in a 6.5lb package. There is very little Factory ammo except from Europe. That's why I reload.
If you want to get down to the bottom line on this Mauser subject, The 8x51 rimmed came out in 1888, just about a copy. The .35 Remington can't be used in any Mauser action unless you have a great smith. The case head is .460, 6.5x55 is .480, not a good fit. Even the 8x57 class including .308 and .30-06 are .473. You can get by with a 8mm or .30-06 case head in a 6.5x55, but accuracy sucks. A .460 will not be supported by a small ring Mauser. Even the 7x57 .473 is not ideal. The cost would outweigh the benefit. I tried to be polite before and agree to a point.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:19 AM   #25
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I have 2. Remington model141 (one of the very first made) and a Rem. 760. Both have killed TONS of whitetails in their illustrious careers. Great guns, great round!
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Trimmed to be Indiana deer legal (1.8" max case length).
It's 1 for 1, shot was only 50 yards. 200 gr didn't exit, clipped onside shoulder (was down in a creekbottom, I was partway up ridge in a tree stand.
Went 30 yards. Internal damage was pretty wicked.

Mine shoots right at an inch at 100yds, but figure it a 200 max due to ballistics.

Shortened .35 quite popular here, can't find a 336, 760 or Contender rifle bbl for reasonable anymore.

If you get a rig with a stock setup for iron sight usage, scoping it might suck. Thankfully one can get lace on/stick on cheepads. I made mine from Kydex.

IMHO if you aren't going to fit the gun to you, might as well not scope it. And no, see through rings are not a good idea.


Let us discuss the trimming/loading. I am ready to start loading IN legal load. I cut down the bottom of a Lee Factory Crimp Die to 1.735". How do you trim your cases?
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Actually they are two totally different cartages. The 35 was originally designed for use in the old Remington autos, rimless.
Yep, originally for the Remington Model 8 Woodmaster designed by the great John Moses Browning. It was also the most popular chamber for the Model 8's made for the police that had 15 round mags. Really cool gun and cartridge, both with lots of history.

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Just trim .005" under legal limit, no crimp (since mine is a single shot).

BTW, on "availability".......... local grocery/big box store Meijer had WW .35 Rem factory ammo, 200grainers IIRC for $29 a box of 20 last deer season.

I have 3 boxes (LGS ordered them for me), shot up and are now trimmed /reloaded. I also got another 100 cases new from a guy that gave up deer hunting. Am pretty well set.

I'd still like another Contender in 14" just because

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Just trim .005" under legal limit, no crimp (since mine is a single shot).

BTW, on "availability".......... local grocery/big box store Meijer had WW .35 Rem factory ammo, 200grainers IIRC for $29 a box of 20 last deer season.

I have 3 boxes (LGS ordered them for me), shot up and are now trimmed /reloaded. I also got another 100 cases new from a guy that gave up deer hunting. Am pretty well set.

I'd still like another Contender in 14" just because
What i was getting at is how do you go about trimming? I was thinking about trimming down the case length gauge i have to the 1.75" range.

On the left is once fired .35 case....on the right is a "test" case.


My reason behind crimping is I am shooting pump action rifles, one tube fed, the other box fed, and am concerned about set back under recoil. I just dont think neck tension will be enough with cutting that much off the neck.
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I've got a T/C Contender pistol in 35 Rem. I've taken quite a few deer with but in a woods the longest shot I've had is 40 yards,none went more than 20 yards and most dropped where they were. It's a great round.

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The Hornady 200GR FTX projectile, whether in factory ammo or in handloads, will extend the range of the .35 because of its better windcutting ability than a roundnose. Good expansion, too, but if you're just takin shorter, (100YDS or less) shots, nothing beats the 200 GR Remington Round Nose Core Lokt bullet. It was designed specifically by Remington for this cartridge when it was first introduced in 1908. Scoping depends on your eyesight. See my report in the Range Report section of the Forum, jd45

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