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Old 05-05-2013, 12:58 AM   #11
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I've only had one 25 caliber gun, a model 70 in 25-06... During the brief time that I owned it, I only shot factory loads and to be honest, I was not impressed with the accuracy that I was getting with that particular gun.

A guy I met at the gun club just had to have it - and I didn't argue.

Having said that, I'd like to try the 25-06 again, or perhaps the .257 Roberts.

I think of 25-06 as being overbore enough to be considered a small magnum.

When I ordered my Savage from the Savage custom shop, my original intention was to order it in .250 Savage... But a scan of the online suppliers at that time showed no .250 Savage ammunition, or even brass available so I opted for .243 Winchester in the end.

No regrets there, the 243 worked out fine.

The story I got was that only one run of .250 Savage ammo and brass was made once a year, and apparently I was looking at the wrong time of year.

If I got a .250 Savage rifle, soon after it would be .250 Savage improved.

I have plans to purchase a new Weatherby Mk V deluxe in .257 Weatherby - but will have to wait as I have other projects that must come first.

One of my favorite cartridges is .256 Winchester magnum, a great medium range varmint round. I was once foolish enough to pass up a great-looking little semi-auto in .256 Win mag. and now think my best bet there is a T/C Contender rifle with a .256 Win mag barrel for it.

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So what are your thoughts on the dual purpose (varmint/deer) .25 calibers; i.e., the .250 Savage, .257 Roberts, and the .25-06?
Don't forget the .257 Weatherby, the king of the "quarter bores."

Personally, I've never really thought of any of the .25 cal offerings as "dual purpose". Of course any cartridge can be used for varmints but to my mind by the .25 cals are a bit too much for prairie dogs.

To me, they are first and foremost medium game calibers. I consider them just about perfect for deer and antelope in relatively open areas where shots out to 300+ yards are likely. I'd actually chose one of them over the time-honored .30-06 if only deer sized game is the plan. Relatively light recoil, flat shooting and enough power to put down a deer if the shooter does his part.
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Don't forget the .257 Weatherby, the king of the "quarter bores."

Personally, I've never really thought of any of the .25 cal offerings as "dual purpose". Of course any cartridge can be used for varmints but to my mind by the .25 cals are a bit too much for prairie dogs.

To me, they are first and foremost medium game calibers. I consider them just about perfect for deer and antelope in relatively open areas where shots out to 300+ yards are likely. I'd actually chose one of them over the time-honored .30-06 if only deer sized game is the plan. Relatively light recoil, flat shooting and enough power to put down a deer if the shooter does his part.
i have to agree with that pretty much, except the varmint part, unless your varmints are the size of larger coyotes. i used my 25-06 years ago as my go to coyote rig in open areas on my father's farm to get rid of his coyote problem.

now smaller varmints, i would agree, the 25 calibers can be moving up the high side of the scale and a smaller caliber would work better.
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I have always loved the 25/06,it is a little over kill on prairie dogs-but fun as hell to watch them explode from the round!
For coyotes,whitetails,pronghorn,mule deer,and elk at short ranges they are hard to beat.
The 257 Roberts is also an excellent caliber,I've never been a big fan of any of the Weatherby calibers although the 257 Weatherby is the velocity king of the 25's. The 250 Savage is an excellent varmint caliber.

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Have any of you ever heard the propaganda the U.S. military told its' Pacific servicemen in WWII about the Jap 6.5? The only reason I bring this up was what my Dad told me. Spent 4 years in the Pacific. I know it is off topic.

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Have any of you ever heard the propaganda the U.S. military told its' Pacific servicemen in WWII about the Jap 6.5? The only reason I bring this up was what my Dad told me. Spent 4 years in the Pacific. I know it is off topic.
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The .257 Weatherby really does not offer that much over the 25-06 when you consider cost. What is "Over" kill never understood that one? A dead prairie dog is dead not over dead? The quarter bore is a favorite varmint and medium game rifle on the High Plains. On the high open plains with almost constant wind the .25 is the work horse of prairie dog shooters.

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I like any round that is based on the 30-06. I don't see me owning a 25-06 since Im a bigger fan of the .243 but I would love to have a 6.5-06. I have a 30-06 and a .270. If my 30-06 didn't shoot sub-moa groups with my 155gr handloads I would build a 6.5-06 or a 30-06AI. I guess I could give her hell at the range.

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I like any round that is based on the 30-06. I don't see me owning a 25-06 since Im a bigger fan of the .243 but I would love to have a 6.5-06. I have a 30-06 and a .270. If my 30-06 didn't shoot sub-moa groups with my 155gr handloads I would build a 6.5-06 or a 30-06AI. I guess I could give her hell at the range.
Why hell at the range?? Still shooting the same bullets?? 155gr? 165 and below lessen everything the .30-06 is. Just get a .308. better yet, buy some 180..200's

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The .257 Weatherby really does not offer that much over the 25-06 when you consider cost. What is "Over" kill never understood that one? A dead prairie dog is dead not over dead? The quarter bore is a favorite varmint and medium game rifle on the High Plains. On the high open plains with almost constant wind the .25 is the work horse of prairie dog shooters.
We do agree on some things. Kinda. The Weatherby offers more when high mountain hunting. But, if that stiff wind comes up....
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If you are not too concerned with shooting game (such as a deer) over 200 yds away, 250 Savage or 257 Roberts should be just fine. 25-06 would be better for longer distances. While the recoil of a 25-06 is not bad, the recoil of a 250 Savage or 257 Roberts is mild....both rounds suitable for kids or women. I own four 257 R rifles and one 25-06. Have plans to build a 250 Savage in near future. Sorry do not hunt, just shoot paper. Don't shoot my 25-06 that much, simply because I reload and I can get more reloads out of a pound of powder with smaller cartridges, such as the 257R.

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