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Old 10-04-2011, 04:23 PM   #11
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I'm sure I'm about to sound like a total noob here, but what does FFL stand for?
That is sorta' funny, but sorry for the jargon. FFL stands for "Federal Firearms License". Think licensed gun dealer.
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That is sorta' funny, but sorry for the jargon. FFL stands for "Federal Firearms License". Think licensed gun dealer.
what snake is saying, the lower receiver has the serial number on it and the BATF considers that a gun. so the lower receiver has to be bought through an FFL holder or transfered through one if you buy it online or out of state. some gun dealers are starting to carry just the lower receivers now, i know mine does. but if you buy online or from out of state, the FFL will charge you a transfer fee of about 20-50 dollars.
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That is sorta' funny, but sorry for the jargon. FFL stands for "Federal Firearms License". Think licensed gun dealer.
Ok I figured it meant gun store one way or another haha
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what snake is saying, the lower receiver has the serial number on it and the BATF considers that a gun. so the lower receiver has to be bought through an FFL holder or transfered through one if you buy it online or out of state. some gun dealers are starting to carry just the lower receivers now, i know mine does. but if you buy online or from out of state, the FFL will charge you a transfer fee of about 20-50 dollars.
Ok good to know. Out of curiosity, if I buy a lower (in state), what type of lists will I be put on? Are there requirements as far as registration goes? Or is that on a state by state basis?
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Ok good to know. Out of curiosity, if I buy a lower (in state), what type of lists will I be put on? Are there requirements as far as registration goes? Or is that on a state by state basis?
Strictly a state-by-state issue and my impression of Utah is that it is a pretty gun-friendly state that doesn't infringe on people's rights to keep and bear arms. Your local gun dealer keeps the 4473 Form you'll fill-out, but it stays in his possession and won't put you on any Federal List.
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Ok good to know. Out of curiosity, if I buy a lower (in state), what type of lists will I be put on? Are there requirements as far as registration goes? Or is that on a state by state basis?
i am pretty sure the restrictions apply to where the firearm is delivered to and not where it came from. you might check just to be sure. because a lot of states with gun restrictions manufacture weapons but have restrictions on them if a resident of that state wants to own one. stupid IMO, should be legal in one state to the next!
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Strictly a state-by-state issue and my impression of Utah is that it is a pretty gun-friendly state that doesn't infringe on people's rights to keep and bear arms. Your local gun dealer keeps the 4473 Form you'll fill-out, but it stays in his possession and won't put you on any Federal List.
I was trying not to sound like a nut, but that is exactly what i needed to know haha well ill sure post back if i start my build, thanks for all the help everyone!
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i'm researching building my own AR as well, so post up some pics and links when you start!!

i just dont know enough about them to get started. i think i'd rather buy a complete one, then take it apart and figure out how it works, then start collect parts to build my own.

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i'm researching building my own AR as well, so post up some pics and links when you start!!

i just dont know enough about them to get started. i think i'd rather buy a complete one, then take it apart and figure out how it works, then start collect parts to build my own.
this is what i did. i bought a very lightly used Bushmaster M4A2 carbine. my next one i plan on building, as the next one will be in 6.8 SPC. buying the first one has taught me how to field strip it and get to know how AR's work in general and some of the things i would like in my next one.
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i dont know anything about 6.8. i know its a bigger round, packs more punch, etc. my buddy just built AR chambered in it, but he says he's getting a new Sig AR platform as soon as the money is available. i've never seen 6.8 anywhere, i'm guessing it's kinda expensive too. maybe one of those cartridges that's better to reload than buy.

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