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Old 04-07-2012, 01:23 PM   #21
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Before I purchased a new 770 I would certainly look into a good used Rem. Model 700. Most have not been used that much and purchased with good intent in mind but only used briefly at best if ever, and never used for huniting at all. Most get scoped, sighted in, shot a little and become a safe resident for the rest of their duration. So you can find them sometimes for around $500.00 with some type of reasonable scope and mounts. I hunt with a 7MM Remington Magnum in Texas and love it. Have also hunted with a 308 prior to that. But as far as power and range there is no comparison between the 270 and the 7MM Mag. Although the 270 is a fine round as is the 30-06.
As far as your initial question about the 17HMR. I have a Marlin 917-Varmint in 17 HMR for shooting crows and small varmints and I enjoy shooting it as much as any of the rifles I have because it is reasonably inexpensive to shoot and very accurate for a little caliber at 2500 FPS. A box of 50 rounds at Wal-Mart will run around $12.00. I have a Bushnell Scope on it and a Rifle Basix 3.5 lb. trigger. It is just flat fun to shoot! And extremely accurate at less than an inch at 100 yards. The 93 R Savage you mentioned is a fine 17 HMR. Regarding the 93 R you can go to Able Arms and see about what each different model is worth regarding the $400.00 price you had. Depends on the model!

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Before I buy new I check gunbroker or cheaper than dirt. Not to add confusion but if you're not going for anything bigger than whitetails I'd look into a 7-08. The 7-08 is a short action with less recoil than a .270, ammo is far less expensive than the 7 RM and easier on barrels it can do anything the .308 can do better. Also a strong contender for a first rifle ought be a .22, reasoning; cheap and no recoil. IMO learning to shoot with anything with much more recoil than a .223 is taking the long, hard and costly route.

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I'll keep those in mind. Like I said the wife won't let me buy one now. And after finding out I have 800 bucks in work I need done to my truck... So it will be a christmas gift to my self. I've been really eyeing up the 300 win round.

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308, 30-06, and 270 are all good choices and all common enough ammo but as its military the 308 currently is probably the most common, all 3 of these will easily kill any game in North America though I would want something bigger for dangerous game such as brown bear. I'm in Northern WI an have used 30-30 and 30-06 all my life, I also have a 308, those 2 are my preference because I like the 30 cal bullet. Plenty of guys use 270 here too, my wife has one and she likes it. If you reload you can use 30-06 brass and neck it down to 270 but I don't like doing this as I don't like my 270 shells to be marked with a 30-06 headstamp. Also check around and find a decent LGS, those chain stores bend you over on everything in my experience, bps, gander, and cabelas are all bad that way, I won't use them unless there is absolutely no other alternative.

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i picked up my savage 93r17 at walmart for 180 bucks and i love the dang thing hahaha

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Unless you are going for bear a 270 or 30-06 will do the job.

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.308, .30-06 work for Bear!!!
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Sniper03 has given some very good advice on this. on the 17HMR, i have the Savage 93r17, bought about eight years ago. i like it fine for what i use it for, longer range rimfire target shooting. if you are wanting a rimfire for longer range hunting than a 22lr, then i would suggest the 22 Magnum instead over the 17HMR.

another point Sniper03 made, about the M770 vs. the M700, i agree with 100%. i bought one several years ago in 30-06, thinking it was an economy version of the M700! wow, was i wrong! IMO, the M770 is nothing like the M700 and is junk. i got rid of mine at a loss compared to what i paid for it, but was glad to be rid of it. if you shop around, you can find some decent deals on used M700's. i just bought another one thursday for $325 that i am refinshing. i test fired it before tearing it down, and though the scope was off by 6" right and 8" high, it still shot a three shot group at 100 yards that could be covered with a nickel. please don't waste good money on a M770, as you might be disaapointed. i have also three of the Marlin X7 series of rifles and they are awesome rifles, accurate, well made and decently priced for a new rifle.

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I agree with the statements on the 770 as well, if money is an issue go for a decent used gun or buy a 700 ADL, its cheaper and still shoots very well. If you look at the 770 and 700 side by side and look at the action you can see they are different designs, one is not a cheaper version of the other, 770 is a completely different rifle and I haven't heard good things about it.

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I agree with the statements on the 770 as well, if money is an issue go for a decent used gun or buy a 700 ADL, its cheaper and still shoots very well. If you look at the 770 and 700 side by side and look at the action you can see they are different designs, one is not a cheaper version of the other, 770 is a completely different rifle and I haven't heard good things about it.
i agree, i fooled myself several years ago and bought one, big mistake! the barrels are pressed in, heavy gritty feeling trigger, flimsy stock, rough feeding bolt. awful rifle. i have heard some people say they make good cheap hunting rifles, well maybe so, if you shoot less than a box of shells a year. some weekends i may shoot 40-80 rounds of handloads, which way more than the average hunter ever shoots. so my demands and expections of my rifles differs from theirs in that perspective. my expectations of a rifle exceeds what a M770 could never be capable of.
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I have been giving serious thought to buying a .17HMR for just plain fun shooting. I already have a couple of .308s, .270 and 30-30 so I think I have the deer calibers covered. Good luck finding for rifle.

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