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Old 04-06-2010, 02:04 PM   #21
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you can pick up a Savage 222 for half the money ---maybe 1/3 the money---before every one jumps me I know you cannot get big clips but if you practice you only need one shot =one kill
Possibility of a big clip is part of my perceived needs. If one of my needs is protection after societal collapse or a marxist takeover (wait, maybe that already happened...), I think a big clip is an imperative.

Also, finding ammo is a biggie. .223 is easy, .22lr is easier, even 7.62 is pretty easy. In fact, when you look at .223, there are loads great for varmints and loads great for 2-legged BG's, am I right?
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your as right as a spring rain---but the initial layout is higher with the new 223/s Like I said one shot ---one kill this is all you need ---but if cost are not a problem get one of those "Black Beauties"

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Since I'd like to keep the whole shebang under $1000, including accessories and a goodly amount of new ammo, I'm thinking the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle in .223 with 30-round magazines. You can get a Leupold scope and perform the main functions of long-distance hunting and if necessary a little zombie-tracking.

Are there alternatives that keep me in this ballpark? Tell me why I'm wrong. I'm still in the market for an AR-15 in the future, but this might be a good first step.

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Since I'd like to keep the whole shebang under $1000, including accessories and a goodly amount of new ammo, I'm thinking the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle in .223 with 30-round magazines. You can get a Leupold scope and perform the main functions of long-distance hunting and if necessary a little zombie-tracking.

Are there alternatives that keep me in this ballpark? Tell me why I'm wrong. I'm still in the market for an AR-15 in the future, but this might be a good first step.
I remember seeing one at Sportman's Warehouse just before Christmas. It has a 6 position tactical stock with a pistol grip similar to what is on the M4.
If I remember correctly is was just over $700.
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I remember seeing one at Sportman's Warehouse just before Christmas. It has a 6 position tactical stock with a pistol grip similar to what is on the M4.
If I remember correctly is was just over $700.
Hey, Romans 1:16, was my confirmation verse. But I digress...

The base model is a bit cheaper than that. The stock you saw must have been an after market add-on. The original has a rifle stock, not a tactical stock, but I'd love to add something like that.

Update: There is a factory model available with an ATI tactical stock as you mentioned. This seems like a great medium betwixt pure hunting rifle and "evil black militia gun."
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I have 9 .22 cal rifles from Bolts, Pumps and Semi-Autos, (2) .22 Magnums, a 30.06, a .270, an AK-47, numerous shotguns and other rifles. I have plenty of Ammo, but the .22s and .22 WMRs would be my favorite for survival along with my 12 GA. shotguns.

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One advantage to the Mini-14 is that if you have just a five round mag in it you don't look like a bubba (if you are worried about that) in the event of a collapse you might just be taken as a hunter instead of a militia member. Other than that I pretty much agree with what every one else has said. Just saying, might be something to think about. Personally I have em both and wouldn't hesitate to carry either of them SHTF. On the other hand if you are toting an "evil black rifle" people might not be so eager to mess with you.

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It looks like the mini fits your requirements, price, right caliber, large cap mags, and good reliability

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I've given this a bit of thought. If I lived outside I could live happily go with a Marlin 1894 in .357 to accompany my Security Six. But I'm blessed to live in Alaska where big bears are a consideration. So, a bit more horsepower is in order. Therefor, an AR is also out, nice woodchuck round but when you get over 500 lbs I just don't see it. I have been torn between the Marlin 30-30 and the SKS. Marlin because I trust them, SKS for volume of firepower. So I bought both. If SHTF I'll probably grab the SKS and die cursing it and wishing for my 30-30. However, I think you could do a lot worse than an SKS, wherever you live. Fairly accurate, it will kill most anything you need to within any realistic range and not devastate the meat doing it. Loads reasonably quickly from the stripper clips, not too heavy, you can carry it and a LOT of ammo.

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I think you all are right but in the long run I like the looks of wood on my rifle-do I own a "black beauty" no.Do I own a 223 yes,Do I own and reload a cheaper 222 -yes.If I lived in the great state of Alaska and thot I was going to encounter griz I would not want a 222 in my hands but I would do everything possible not to be invited to his house for dinner
Ain't this a great nation we live in where we can give our thots about what we like and don't like about some gun.
And ain't this a great site that we can give our thots and not be "black balled"
End of story 'Buy what you can afford and be happy with "

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