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Old 07-19-2011, 10:20 PM   #11
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Here in VA, the requirement is that the pawner be prosecuted and convicted for you to get money back, owner to get property back, etc. The pawnshop owner likely DID report the SN, but it had not been entered into the system- when it was, it popped on on the computer. IF it was not reported stolen until AFTER you bought it, your claim MAY be against the person that pawned it. However, I am not a lawyer, and MY legal advice is worth every penny you paid for it.
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Get a lawyer.
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But I thought pawn shops had to notify the police with the serial numbers to check to see if they were reported stolen before they could be sold. I would love to go to a pawn shop to look at guns but most of the pawn shops are in rough areas and I'm kind of afraid to go there alone.

I was at the gun shop I frequent last week and was talking to the sales man. He said once someone came in and wrote the serial numbers of several used guns on display then went home and reported them stolen. The police came to the shop and confiscated the guns. The guns were then turned over to the guy who reported them stolen even though they were never his guns in the first place. Does that sound possible. This is a younger guy who told me this story and I'm not sure if he was just feeding me a line of BS or if that could be true.
Most guns that criminals sell to pawn shops shave off the serial Numbers so they can't be reported to anyone.
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The pawn shops here cannot buy a gun that the Numbers are missing and they have to check the status of the gun before they can sell it. If it is not in the stolen gun data base then it will not show up as stolen.
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The pawn shops here cannot buy a gun that the Numbers are missing and they have to check the status of the gun before they can sell it. If it is not in the stolen gun data base then it will not show up as stolen.
Thank you that is what should happen all over.
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ill ask who the previous owner was, why did they sell, try to get a history. i buy used and new. ill askk how long its been in the store stuff like that. if it sounds like a kid, homeless or goblin type sold it ill skip even if it is a good deal.
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ill ask who the previous owner was, why did they sell, try to get a history. i buy used and new. ill askk how long its been in the store stuff like that. if it sounds like a kid, homeless or goblin type sold it ill skip even if it is a good deal.
Smart move. Know the history before you consider it.
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Most guns that criminals sell to pawn shops shave off the serial Numbers so they can't be reported to anyone.
No offense, but where did you hear this? A firearm with a visibly altered serial number might as well have STOLEN spraypainted on the stock. If i saw a modern firearm with no serial number, i would point it out to the staff and leave the store. Stolen or not, an altered serial number will get you trouble with the ATF boys.
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Most guns that criminals sell to pawn shops shave off the serial Numbers so they can't be reported to anyone.
Federal offense, and pawn shops with FFLs know this. It's not worth losing everything over a $40 pawn ticket. Pre '68 firearms may not have serial numbers, but it's still pretty rare.
I can tell you at the pawns shops I go to, the serial number of the firearm is entered onto the pawn ticket while it is being generated, before the pawner has gotten any money.
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I purchased a remington 30-06 from a local pawn shop early march , well last week it was taken by the police they said it was stolen and I would have to deal with the pawn shop to get my money back .
Went to the pawn shop and they told me it was reported stolen right after I bought it ,, then told me they could not refund my money unless the police made them the first victum on a report or they would get in trouble by the ATF and I may never see my money back , Has anyone else ever had a problem like this .
I mean they had all my info , I did the ATF paper work buying the gun everything cleared gun reported stolen after I bought it (Not by me ) And no one contacts me to tell me I have a stolen gun ( My son-in-law spent the evening in jail over this untill I could prove I bought the gun from a pawn shop)
They don't have any cops working at that pawn shop, do they?
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