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StoneCat 09-01-2012 10:38 PM

Springfield Socom 16 Ammo questions.
 
So I've not had the best experience of late with my Socom...

The shop I bought it from gave me a tin of bulk ammo (of dubious origin) with purchase... And inside of 100 rounds I blew up my bolt assembly (which springfield replaced, free of charge)
After that it was hornady match ammo... Which left me with a bloodied shoulder (I'm no slouch, I can shoot a Remington 870 all day with no bruise)

So I'm curious as to what you folks find to be acceptable ammo in the 16 inch barreled m1a.

Or have I just been shooting 5.56 too long?

Sniper03 09-03-2012 10:04 PM

Stone Cat!

First of all you are correct! IT IS NO 223/5,56! There is a big difference with appreciated recoil when the rifle is fired. The other issue is with that said you must and especially if you are going to shoot several rounds, need to be sure it is properly and snugly into your shoulder when firing. If it should have a scope on it be sure you maintain the proper eye relief! Or it will cut you! If it isn't snug you will know it and especially after some considerable shooting, to and including bruising your shoulder. You can get a slip on butt cover for the stock or they also sell a shoulder pad protector that just slips over your short/shoulder and has adjustable straps to keep it in place! Very inexpensive! This takes a little pressure off the shoulder. No doubt! the first ammunition you had I would not shoot anymore of it and would be reluctant to give it or sell it to someone else. I would only guess there may be one of two problems with it. 1. The crimp on the bullet is light possible causing the bullet to slip (recess) back into the casing when the cartridge is loaded into the chamber. Therefore causing excessive chamber pressure and trashing the bolt or in some cases blowing the entire receiver a part. 2. Wrong powder causing overpressure rounds!
3. Unless Springfield advised of excessive head space which I doubt that was the case?

03

StoneCat 09-03-2012 10:27 PM

Well I was a bit of a fool because I figured my Gunshop wouldn't give me ammo too hot for my rifle... (the load that blew the bolt assy)

But I think I got 7.62 NATO (I think that's right... I mean to say euro .308) which I assume is like running 5.56 in a .223 only...

I'm no stranger to perceived recoil, as the other rifles I shot that day alone were chambered in .30-30 and and .30-06

I think part of it was my technique, but I noticed that as I policed my brass, about 70% of the time, the primer was jarred loose from the casing... Which I'd never seen before.

anyway... I'm thinking it may just be me?
All the same, match ammo is pricy, and I guess I'm looking for a suitable "combat" load...

robocop10mm 09-03-2012 11:20 PM

7.62 NATO ammo is LESS powerful than US .308.

StoneCat 09-03-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robocop10mm
7.62 NATO ammo is LESS powerful than US .308.

Well damn. Then there goes my theory as to why the bolt blew...

Now I guess I regret giving those 400 rnds to my brother for his fnfal...

tacticalfun 09-03-2012 11:34 PM

Ah finally! My fav rifle of all time :) my socom is my right arm. Sorry to hear about your reciever. I use mostly federal match ammo in competition and some hand loads...springfield has mentioned not to use surplus. As to the felt recoil try one of these sage ebr stocks. Our whole squad has them http://www.desertwarriorproducts.com/M1A-M14-Stocks.html

StoneCat 09-03-2012 11:47 PM

My but that stock looks fantastic!

I'll admit, I like my colt LE6920, but the socom has a spot in my heart... I'll try that federal match

I'm told that the socom is a workhorse, and that my bolt assy issue was possibly an isolated incident... Springfield fixed/replaced it free, and I couldn't be more pleased with their service...

25-5 09-03-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoneCat
So I've not had the best experience of late with my Socom...

The shop I bought it from gave me a tin of bulk ammo (of dubious origin) with purchase... And inside of 100 rounds I blew up my bolt assembly (which springfield replaced, free of charge)
After that it was hornady match ammo... Which left me with a bloodied shoulder (I'm no slouch, I can shoot a Remington 870 all day with no bruise)

So I'm curious as to what you folks find to be acceptable ammo in the 16 inch barreled m1a.

Or have I just been shooting 5.56 too long?

I am new to this also and the folks on this forum know more. However, primers back out because of too much pressure. Was the ammo reloads? If it was factory 7.62 that really should not happen since they are loaded for lower pressure than for bolt actions. I have shot a lot of the Hornady Super Match in 168 grain no harm to the shoulder. Although I shoot the M1A which is heavier w/22 in barrel.

StoneCat 09-04-2012 12:14 AM

I was using factory ammo. Hornady w/ the red tip (I forget the designation but I do know it was marked "match" ammo.)


I know part of the felt recoil was due to the 16 inch barrel. Even the finely designed muzzle break can only do do much... But there seemed to be a noticed difference between the match loads and the mil-surp as far as recoil. I'm wondering a) if it's just me. And b) what you folks use with success...

tacticalfun 09-04-2012 12:20 AM

Only use match grade through your fine rifle :)


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