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Old 01-12-2017, 03:45 PM   #1
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Default Since we brought up hunting coyotes with .223...

For those of you out there who have done it, what bullet did you find that worked the best? My BREN 805 is not fond of some 55gr bullets, but will snap a 50 gr MidwayUSA Dogtown JHP right to POA out to 200 yards. I am NOT an experienced hunter by ANY means, and will be going along with those who really are, just curious what the experienced hunters here might think? Other choice is some 50 year old Sierra 40gr soft points, another right-to-the-dot bullet.


Now, for the dumb question - coyotes are no good to eat, and the pelts are worth nothing. So, stupid question - what do you DO with the varmints after you down them? I know why I'm taking them down, (if I can, with help. Have two friends with farms and livestock around here that suffer depredations), but I dislike the idea of leaving the carcass...or is that what I'm supposed to do?

Sorry, for the long term hunters I'm sure that sounds like a no brainer, "What are you, an idiot" question, but nobody taught me how to hunt my whole life, having to learn in the second half of my century. Thank you for any reply except for "Are you an idiot" - I get that enough at work.
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Not an idiot at all, just lacking the instruction.

Each rifle will have it's own preference for load as far as accuracy. But you also need to worry a bit about bullet construction to get in deep enough to tear those dogs up. Some super lightweight bullets will also have very thin jackets and may just kind of grenade on the surface of the 'yote. it will cause a big wound bit it may not kill the dog, or at least not right away. I like 64 Gr power points or a bonded bullet to try to get the round all the way through them.

You can still try to use the pelts or find someone who wants them in trade. If you find some folks on an outdoor forum or a mountain man group or primitive archery group, they tend to have uses for the pelts, making clothing or quivers and such. They tend to like to trade stuff for them. if you skin them you can roll the pelts put them in a gallon sized plastic bag and freeze them until you find someone who wants them. Some may just want the tails.

The carcasses can be used to help bait other coyotes or predators in on your next hunt. You may not need the whole thing but just some bits and you may want to ripen them a bit the day before you hunt. Otherwise let the buzzards do the work, they need to eat too. Check your local predator hunting laws about baiting though before using anything as bait.
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It sounds like you have a 1:12 twist and hopefully not a 1:14. I had one with 1:12 that would barely stabilize a 55 grain but cloverleaf 45 and 50 grain bullets. A flat base bullet will stabilize better than a boat tail in 55 grain with the 1:12 twist. You might try 52 grains like the Black Hills 52 Grain Match HP. I dont hunt coyote but I have heard they work well if your rifle will shoot them well.
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Pelts in "winter prime" are valuable.

Try a 50 grain Speer or Sierra soft point.
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I hunt coyotes and there a lot of folks who want the pelts. I cannot sell them in Maryland without a Trapper/Furbearers license but, a lot of folks use them for artsy stuff. And my go to Yote handler is a .204 Ruger with 39 grain Sierra Blitzking with 25.2 gr of 10X.
Basically, we hunt them to keep our deer population safer. Them deer need a chance to get big.
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1-7 twist, actually.
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1-7 twist, actually.
I would check that. 1:7 would tend to explode a 40 grain at normal 40 grain velocities. 1:7 is a heavy bullet twist like 75 grains. 1:9 works well with 55 and 62 grain bullets.
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I would check that. 1:7 would tend to explode a 40 grain at normal 40 grain velocities. 1:7 is a heavy bullet twist like 75 grains. 1:9 works well with 55 and 62 grain bullets.
I thought he was saying he was using 50 gr bullets not 40. Some barrels will have a bit more tolerance than others for bullets outside of the average for their barrel twist. I have a 1:9 that likes some loads in the 50 grain range and even does well with some 75 and 77 gr loads. Some of that can depend on the individual bullet and seems to have more to do with how long the bullet is than the weight.
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I shoot them with 5.56 55 gr ball and leave them where they fall. I am not going to waste a good bullet on a damn coyote.
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