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Old 04-25-2014, 06:15 PM   #1
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Default Shooting a man-size target with a AK 47 and missing it at 200m(220 yards)

Recently a friend of mine sent me a youtube where discovery channel made a comparision between the m16 and the AK 47.Two guy were shooting them at a indoor range.The guy with the AK 47,who is a gun expert,shot 5 rounds but only one hit the target.Since this means that you can hit only the 20% of the targets you're shooting at.So...the question is:How the hell is that possible?
When I was serving in the SLO army, we were equipped with the M70.To qualify, you had to hit the target(fatal wounds, center of the mass or head) at least 25/30 times-at 200-250m(220y-275yds).And I was at 28/30.So how is it possible that an expert(experienced shooter) wasn't able to place 4/5 or even 5/5 on the target?...IMO he should switch to another job

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Old 04-25-2014, 07:49 PM   #2
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People swear the AK is a great deer rifle, just as good as a 30/30. That is not my opinion, but I have seen 5 and 6 pages of experts swearing that the AK is a fine deer rifle.

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There are AKs, and AKs. Do not know condition of rifle or ammo in the test. I have a 91/30 that would be a good 500 meter rifle, and an M38 that shoots a 3 ft pattern at 200 meters.

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^ +1 on that

An 'average' AK in a decent shooter's hands will group 4-6 inches at 100 yards, open sights. That equates to an 8.4" to 12.6" spread at 200 meters.

Milled-receivers and the heavier Yugos lacking chrome-lined barrels are capable of better.

either way, accurate enough to hit a human-sized target 60% or more of the time at that distance

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Were they shooting full auto? The AK tends to walk and climb pretty quick if folks havent practiced countering it's particular recoil, or using controlled bursts. Teh only auto fire I did with an AK took me about 1-20 rounds to figure out my burst control and being able to stay on a target at 100 feet. In semi-auto torso hits were managable at least 80% of the time at the 200 yd line. I did find full auto or auto-bursts to be much more controllable with the M16 at the same range session.

But, as C3 said, condition of the gun may have a lot to do with it. The sights may have been way off.

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I have yet to see an AK worthy of beating a mule with. I do have a pair of SKS Norinco 56 rifles that are just as accurate as a Model 60 marlin. Yup, they suck as a deer rifle too. Maybe, it's not the rifle that sux but the 7.62x39 cartridge.

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"The guy shooting the AK-47 was a gun expert"

Self proclaimed on Youtube? Expert on the AK?
Or maybe it was the Airsoft? Some of the gun
experts that TV shows come up with I wouldn't trust
with my Red Ryder. They might put an eye out.

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If someone can't hit a man size target at 200 m with a A/K they need to practise more.

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Were they shooting full auto? The AK tends to walk and climb pretty quick if folks havent practiced countering it's particular recoil, or using controlled bursts. Teh only auto fire I did with an AK took me about 1-20 rounds to figure out my burst control and being able to stay on a target at 100 feet. In semi-auto torso hits were managable at least 80% of the time at the 200 yd line. I did find full auto or auto-bursts to be much more controllable with the M16 at the same range session.

But, as C3 said, condition of the gun may have a lot to do with it. The sights may have been way off.
No, they weren't shooting full auto.I don't know anybody who would be able to hit a target at 200 m(220 yds) while shooting an AK 47 on full auto.I personally would use the full auto mode only for distances between 50-80m(55y - 87yds).As I said, I'm an average guy...

Anyway:You're right.The M16 performs much better in terms of accuracy.
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