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MCalig 04-25-2014 05:15 PM

Shooting a man-size target with a AK 47 and missing it at 200m(220 yards)
 
Recently a friend of mine sent me a youtube where discovery channel made a comparision between the m16 and the AK 47.Two guy were shooting them at a indoor range.The guy with the AK 47,who is a gun expert,shot 5 rounds but only one hit the target.Since this means that you can hit only the 20% of the targets you're shooting at.So...the question is:How the hell is that possible?
When I was serving in the SLO army, we were equipped with the M70.To qualify, you had to hit the target(fatal wounds, center of the mass or head) at least 25/30 times-at 200-250m(220y-275yds).And I was at 28/30.So how is it possible that an expert(experienced shooter) wasn't able to place 4/5 or even 5/5 on the target?...IMO he should switch to another job

John_Deer 04-25-2014 06:49 PM

People swear the AK is a great deer rifle, just as good as a 30/30. That is not my opinion, but I have seen 5 and 6 pages of experts swearing that the AK is a fine deer rifle.

c3shooter 04-25-2014 07:40 PM

There are AKs, and AKs. Do not know condition of rifle or ammo in the test. I have a 91/30 that would be a good 500 meter rifle, and an M38 that shoots a 3 ft pattern at 200 meters.

chloeshooter 04-25-2014 08:16 PM

^ +1 on that

An 'average' AK in a decent shooter's hands will group 4-6 inches at 100 yards, open sights. That equates to an 8.4" to 12.6" spread at 200 meters.

Milled-receivers and the heavier Yugos lacking chrome-lined barrels are capable of better.

either way, accurate enough to hit a human-sized target 60% or more of the time at that distance

SSGN_Doc 04-25-2014 08:24 PM

Were they shooting full auto? The AK tends to walk and climb pretty quick if folks havent practiced countering it's particular recoil, or using controlled bursts. Teh only auto fire I did with an AK took me about 1-20 rounds to figure out my burst control and being able to stay on a target at 100 feet. In semi-auto torso hits were managable at least 80% of the time at the 200 yd line. I did find full auto or auto-bursts to be much more controllable with the M16 at the same range session.

But, as C3 said, condition of the gun may have a lot to do with it. The sights may have been way off.

John_Deer 04-25-2014 09:17 PM

I have yet to see an AK worthy of beating a mule with. I do have a pair of SKS Norinco 56 rifles that are just as accurate as a Model 60 marlin. Yup, they suck as a deer rifle too. Maybe, it's not the rifle that sux but the 7.62x39 cartridge.

BillM 04-25-2014 10:06 PM

"The guy shooting the AK-47 was a gun expert"

Self proclaimed on Youtube? Expert on the AK?
Or maybe it was the Airsoft? Some of the gun
experts that TV shows come up with I wouldn't trust
with my Red Ryder. They might put an eye out.:cool:

manta 04-25-2014 10:10 PM

If someone can't hit a man size target at 200 m with a A/K they need to practise more.

kryptar19 04-25-2014 11:12 PM

Expert in knowledge does not mean expert in practice.

MCalig 04-26-2014 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGN_Doc (Post 1565713)
Were they shooting full auto? The AK tends to walk and climb pretty quick if folks havent practiced countering it's particular recoil, or using controlled bursts. Teh only auto fire I did with an AK took me about 1-20 rounds to figure out my burst control and being able to stay on a target at 100 feet. In semi-auto torso hits were managable at least 80% of the time at the 200 yd line. I did find full auto or auto-bursts to be much more controllable with the M16 at the same range session.

But, as C3 said, condition of the gun may have a lot to do with it. The sights may have been way off.

No, they weren't shooting full auto.I don't know anybody who would be able to hit a target at 200 m(220 yds) while shooting an AK 47 on full auto.I personally would use the full auto mode only for distances between 50-80m(55y - 87yds).As I said, I'm an average guy...

Anyway:You're right.The M16 performs much better in terms of accuracy.


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