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Old 02-28-2010, 09:07 AM   #31
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Now that this thread has strirred up my long surpressed desire for an M1A, I have been looking at manufacturer's websites for pricing. I am looking at an M1A with a full length NM quality barrel and wood stock:

1. Fulton Armory: $2,700
2. LRB: $2,700
3. Springfield (Loaded): $1,900

As far as I can tell, The Fulton Armory and the LRB M1A's rifles are assembled with hammer forged receivers and mostly USGI parts.

I believe (but am not certain) that the Springfield receiver is not a hammer forged part (MIM?). Is this an issue?

Is there any reason not to buy a Springfield and save $800?

Recommendations?
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Now that this thread has strirred up my long surpressed desire for an M1A, I have been looking at manufacturer's websites for pricing. I am looking at an M1A with a full length NM quality barrel and wood stock:

1. Fulton Armory: $2,700
2. LRB: $2,700
3. Springfield (Loaded): $1,900

As far as I can tell, The Fulton Armory and the LRB M1A's rifles are assembled with hammer forged receivers and mostly USGI parts.

I believe (but am not certain) that the Springfield receiver is not a hammer forged part (MIM?). Is this an issue?

Is there any reason not to buy a Springfield and save $800?

Recommendations?
Fulton Armory and LRB are wonderful rifles worth the money you pay for them. The fit and finish is fantastic and the accuracy/reliability is built in. There is nothing wrong with an SA either. Whether the others are worth $800 more is up to the buyer. There is certain mystique about forged vs. cast but you would have thought Ruger would have put that myth to bed decades ago. Their guns are all cast frames and known throughout the indusrty for their stregth.

I chose not to spend the extra money and I'm very happy with my SA Loaded but I would be very happy with the FA or LRB too.
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Fulton gets their receivers from various sources. They are nice, but spendy. LRB uses the same steel and the same process as the original USGI M14's. If you don't mind spending the money, get an LRB. A Smith Enterprise Crazy Horse rifle will serve your needs and will never lose it's value. The new kid on the block is 7.62mmFirearms, and they are offering hammer forged as well as cast receivers.

The SAI receivers are investment cast, but don't let that scare you. The SAI receivers basically last forever. The areas of stress have been beefed up. And SAI has the best warranty (forever) in the biz. Quick service and nice people. But problems are very rare.

The SAI Loaded is an amazing rifle. Easily capable of sub-MOA right out of the box with the right ammo. They used to have excellent Wilson NM bbls, but are using another supplier now.

Look into buying an LRB receiver and having a rifle built to your specs maybe? LOTS of world class M14 armorers out there who can build you a work of art.

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Now that this thread has strirred up my long surpressed desire for an M1A, I have been looking at manufacturer's websites for pricing. I am looking at an M1A with a full length NM quality barrel and wood stock:

1. Fulton Armory: $2,700
2. LRB: $2,700
3. Springfield (Loaded): $1,900

As far as I can tell, The Fulton Armory and the LRB M1A's rifles are assembled with hammer forged receivers and mostly USGI parts.

I believe (but am not certain) that the Springfield receiver is not a hammer forged part (MIM?). Is this an issue?

Is there any reason not to buy a Springfield and save $800?

Recommendations?
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Fulton gets their receivers from various sources. They are nice, but spendy. LRB uses the same steel and the same process as the original USGI M14's. If you don't mind spending the money, get an LRB. A Smith Enterprise Crazy Horse rifle will serve your needs and will never lose it's value. The new kid on the block is 7.62mmFirearms, and they are offering hammer forged as well as cast receivers.

The SAI receivers are investment cast, but don't let that scare you. The SAI receivers basically last forever. The areas of stress have been beefed up. And SAI has the best warranty (forever) in the biz. Quick service and nice people. But problems are very rare.

The SAI Loaded is an amazing rifle. Easily capable of sub-MOA right out of the box with the right ammo. They used to have excellent Wilson NM bbls, but are using another supplier now.

Look into buying an LRB receiver and having a rifle built to your specs maybe? LOTS of world class M14 armorers out there who can build you a work of art.
I have an SAI M1A Loaded version than I bought in the 1990's and it is true that it is capable of sub-MOA out of the box. Mine shoots just at or a tad over 3/4 inch groups @ 100 yards. I find that the Sierra Match king 175 gr. works the best for accuracy in this specific rifle. The two other M1A/M14's I own are older USGI hammer forged recievers I acquired in the late 1970's and early 1980"s. These two were well used when I bought them and my friends and I further abused them for several years out in the Nevada desert until about 1990. They performed flawlessly until I "parked" them for no other reason than for re-barreling and general "tune up".
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I have an SAI M1A Loaded version than I bought in the 1990's and it is true that it is capable of sub-MOA out of the box. Mine shoots just at or a tad over 3/4 inch groups @ 100 yards. I find that the Sierra Match king 175 gr. works the best for accuracy in this specific rifle. The two other M1A/M14's I own are older USGI hammer forged recievers I acquired in the late 1970's and early 1980"s. These two were well used when I bought them and my friends and I further abused them for several years out in the Nevada desert until about 1990. They performed flawlessly until I "parked" them for no other reason than for re-barreling and general "tune up".
Are your USGI receivers MKS re-welds?
Who made them? Do you still have them? I'd love to see some pics.
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Are your USGI receivers MKS re-welds?
Who made them? Do you still have them? I'd love to see some pics.
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