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Old 08-27-2014, 01:09 PM   #21
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I am getting a Savage Axis .223 and have not been able to find any information on whether or not it can handle 5.56 ammo.
If anyone has any information or thoughts on this subject please let me know.
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303tom Seems to me if you read your own supplied info you would see that you could have a problem shooting 5.56 in 223 and why also why some sloppy chamber it does not matter . What you have in your single shot is not known for quality chambers so shoot away if your happy.
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Yep. I used to believe that, too.


Identical ammunition, in this case Lake City M855 from the same lot.

Here was my personal and unintentional experiment with 5.56 out of a .223. The rounds on the left were fired from a .223 chambered AR15. It consistently blew the primers. The rounds on the right were fired from a 5.56 chambered AR15. Same day, same ammo, two different chambers. .223 ammunition functioned without issue through both rifles.

Remedy: Ream the .223 chamber.

I have never had this issue with any Savage chambered in .223 (I've owned 3), or any other bolt gun I've owned with the exception of a .223 Weathery which exhibited indications of over-pressure when shooting 5.56.

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For a synopsis and commentary of the SAAMI Bulletin "Unsafe Arms and Ammunition Combinations Technical Data Sheet" (1/1979, revised and updated Summer 2007), see:

http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

This is what I've been looking for. I traded a guy under the assumption I was getting a RRA entry tactical. Come to find out it was a put together job. The barrel had no caliber markings.i got worried it was just a 223 chamber. Before I found out it was a do it yourself job I put several hundred 5.56 rounds through it. I had no issues at all. From the looks of your info if it was a 223 chamber then I would have consistent blown primers or stuck cases.
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303tom Seems to me if you read your own supplied info you would see that you could have a problem shooting 5.56 in 223 and why also why some sloppy chamber it does not matter . What you have in your single shot is not known for quality chambers so shoot away if your happy.
I did read it & that`s why I posted it, so you could make up your own mind.........But right off the bat he says.

If you’re unfamiliar with the differences between .223 and 5.56, you should understand the following basic facts:

1. The exterior (physical) dimensions of .223 and 5.56 ammunition are effectively identical.
2. 5.56 ammunition (MAY) be loaded to higher pressures than .223 ammunition.
3. 5.56mm chambers are dimensionally larger in certain critical areas than .223 chambers.
4. Given the same ammunition, 5.56 chambers will have lower pressures than .223 chambers.
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another issue to consider is the warranty of the rifle. if the rifle is marked 223 Rem. and you are shooting 5.56mm ammo through it and it experiences a major failure, they may not honor the warranty for using ammo not specifically made fro that rifle.

my rule of thumb is to follow the manufacturers guidelines in regards to ammo selection. they built it, so it's quite possible they should know what's best.

there seems to be controversy over whether 5.56mm is loaded to higher pressure than 223, and i have heard this for many years now. most of my load data books say to start with a minimum or 10% under minimum powder charge when using military 5.56mm cases due to possible higher pressures. my load data books also show identical exterior dimensions of the 223 and the 5.56mm cases.
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another issue to consider is the warranty of the rifle. if the rifle is marked 223 Rem. and you are shooting 5.56mm ammo through it and it experiences a major failure, they may not honor the warranty for using ammo not specifically made fro that rifle.

my rule of thumb is to follow the manufacturers guidelines in regards to ammo selection. they built it, so it's quite possible they should know what's best.

there seems to be controversy over whether 5.56mm is loaded to higher pressure than 223, and i have heard this for many years now. most of my load data books say to start with a minimum or 10% under minimum powder charge when using military 5.56mm cases due to possible higher pressures. my load data books also show identical exterior dimensions of the 223 and the 5.56mm cases.
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