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Old 01-25-2014, 12:27 AM   #31
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nice! that is a sweet looking rifle pic you posted.
Interesting you had problems with your AR in the cold, we don't seem to have that issue here in the great north America USA
Thank you. It is very accurate. I love the gun. The coldest it ever gets around here is maybe -15 Celsius. Not even close to say Alaska. I use to hunt a lot in Russia in the early 90s. Some of the hunters used various AK variants. Those rifles work in the extreme cold. One hunter showed me how to dig a hole and cover yourself up with snow. He fired the weapon while totally covered by snow. I was convinced that the AK was freaking awesome.
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At what point is dirty too dirty? I guess it changes with the quality of AR you have. Mine just works and I'd be happy to prove it anybody. I just cleaned it for the first time in 800rds.
Hey challenges are awesome. Wish there was a way to compare a high quality AR with a high quality AK in a field test. Settle the argument. Never see the expensive stuff being tortured on Youtube. Oh, and no, I am not going to torture my weapons. I do not have another 5 grand to replace them.
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Good night everybody. Both AR and AK are excellent weapons...there is no denying it.
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I would not know if my personal AR would suffer in extreme cold temperatures, it never gets that cold over here. Mine is a competition rifle though. It better perform though, I paid a bundle for it. It has not failed me yet. It is much easier to clear out crap from an AK then an AR. In a SHTF battle, cleaning out debris with an AR will get you killed. You have to take the gun apart. Ask any soldier. For Stoner's invention to work, you always have to keep it clean. He admitted it himself. With an AK....forget about it.
no need to worry dude all the tests have been done, and the AR is the winner!

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ARs are the best guns ever.... as long as its not cold out, you use the best ammo available " no wolf", clean it after every two hundred rounds , dont let it touch any dirt , and spend 1200 dollars
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ARs are the best guns ever.... as long as its not cold out, you use the best ammo available " no wolf", clean it after every two hundred rounds , dont let it touch any dirt , and spend 1200 dollars

Lol ok..........

You are obviously an expert with all weapons.

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I'm usually a lurker in this type of discussion but the one thing that jumps out at me is there is no consideration as to the locale the weapon is being used in.
Here in Maine 100 yards is a long shot 200 a really long shot! The terrain is just to dense to be able to see that far.
I have a Wasr 10/63 that shoots into 1 1/2" the first few shots and it does open up a bit when hot but not excessively, so in my situation I need something accurate enough and totally reliable and for me that's an AK.
If I were out west where you can see for ever I certainly would chose another option. But even then I would be more sniper rifle than battle rifle prone.
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Jager..how about a semi auto .308 saiga ?
I have a 308 saiga. It is combat accurate but is no match for my browning. I use it for canoe hunting, in places that there is a good chance it will end up in the water. When you get several dogs in a 16' canoe anything might happen.
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ARs are the best guns ever.... as long as its not cold out, you use the best ammo available " no wolf", clean it after every two hundred rounds , dont let it touch any dirt , and spend 1200 dollars

Wow. Just wow.... This winter I have shot one of my AR builds in freezing cold with freezing rain. I had ice formed on hand guard. Not only that, but I was shooting cheap Herters steel cased ammo. Not a single hiccup!
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Looks like some of you guy's might be game for a AKOLT., or an Galil.
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