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Old 08-18-2010, 10:22 PM   #11
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I really don't care but, what has Obama done to the firearms in this country now that he is president. He made it legal to carry CCW in National Parks. That whole scare after he was elected was fabricated by a bunch of loser's saying show me the birth certificate. On the website whitehouse.gov he states a mission of stopping the sales of pistol grip rifles and pistol magazines of 10 or less but that is about it. I just don't see the need to be all fearful of losing anything to this president. And anyone that gets to excited has been watching to much Glen Beck, and he makes his money by exciting the masses. It never really matters what the news casters say, they just want you to listen to their drivvel. It's SAD
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I just read the whole article. I saw nothing to indicate BO has any intentions of removing firearms from law-abiding citizens. Am I missing something here? BTW I do not support gun control on law abiding citizens.

Actually BO would be considered conservative here in Canada from what I just read.
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I just read the whole article. I saw nothing to indicate BO has any intentions of removing firearms from law-abiding citizens. Am I missing something here? BTW I do not support gun control on law abiding citizens.

Actually BO would be considered conservative here in Canada from what I just read.
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions

  • Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
  • Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
  • Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
  • Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual’s right to bear arms?
A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
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I just read the whole article. I saw nothing to indicate BO has any intentions of removing firearms from law-abiding citizens. Am I missing something here? BTW I do not support gun control on law abiding citizens.

Actually BO would be considered conservative here in Canada from what I just read.
Right after the election there was that firearm and ammunition ploy that ran up the prices and everything got vacant on the shelves. It was all anger and fear based. More of the anger from losing the election. I don't think it mattered who ran against McCain, Bush had been enough for the republicans.
And now there is this talk show mentality opinion based news casters that make money from getting people excited, and most people can't see thru it and it doesn't matter what side you stand on, you lose !
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The Arms Export Control Act of 1976 (22 USC 2778) prohibits their import into the US.

Military surplus firearms sold under "Lend Lease" and similar arms assistance programs cannot be imported.

There were 5.4 million M1 rifles manufactured by Springfield and other contractors.

There are millions of them in warehouses around the world. And the only market for a 10# 3006 is here in the good ole USA.

These surplus rifles scare the shit out of the DC Royals.

When your standing army's issue is a 22 cal carbine, a few rebel "riflemen" with a long gun capable of 4-500 meter kill shots off iron sights instills fear in tyrants. Tyrants are inclined to keep them out of the hands of the rebel by passing laws!
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  • Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:
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  • Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
  • Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual’s right to bear arms?
A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.
I didn't take the source quoted as credible. I am not saying he didn't say it but I don't see a "political awareness test" as a credible source.

Some more examples would be nice just for me to see his true colors.

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The Arms Export Control Act of 1976 (22 USC 2778) prohibits their import into the US.

Military surplus firearms sold under "Lend Lease" and similar arms assistance programs cannot be imported.

There were 5.4 million M1 rifles manufactured by Springfield and other contractors.

There are millions of them in warehouses around the world. And the only market for a 10# 3006 is here in the good ole USA.

These surplus rifles scare the shit out of the DC Royals.

When your standing army's issue is a 22 cal carbine, a few rebel "riflemen" with a long gun capable of 4-500 meter kill shots off iron sights instills fear in tyrants. Tyrants are inclined to keep them out of the hands of the rebel by passing laws!
We'll take them here in Canada
FWIW a dealer in Canada looked at those firearms and said most were junk. Only about 50% were actually serviceable.
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I didn't take the source quoted as credible. I am not saying he didn't say it but I don't see a "political awareness test" as a credible source.


Some more examples would be nice just for me to see his true colors.

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Actually BO would be considered conservative here in Canada from what I just read.
You guys are welcome to take him, but i call no take-backs.
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