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Old 06-11-2012, 05:34 AM   #41
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What makes an $18 dollar 6.5 Carcano with a 3/4" Tasco 4X reciever side mounted scope a "Scout" rifle.

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Old 06-11-2012, 06:46 AM   #42
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that is before long ar style rifles will be banned in CA and other retard states.
Not true. They were banned in California for a while but a loophole, and then a ruling against the law as unconstitutional changed how it works. Basically you can not say all ar15 rifles are illegal. You have to ban individual features, or by make and model.
If I needed to only carry one rifle, it'd be an ironsighted ar or Finn m39.
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42 minute vid? OMG, not right now. I heard that YouTube was taking his vids off their site anyway...
I would have to see that to believe it. I highly doubt they would.
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Durango,
Don't be confused, Jeff Cooper didn't come up with an amazing concept, he just renewed an old one. His scout rifle concept is basicaly a bolt action carbine with a pistol scope on it.

I think an M-1 Tanker in 308, with a tacticool long eye relief scope would answer as well probly better.

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Old 06-11-2012, 03:20 PM   #45
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Have you looked at a Carcano carbine?

I own one, and the questionable design,

combined with the crappy caliber, prove

two things:

1-The Italian Infantry of the last century had

laudable courage, to trust it.

2-Elegant evidence that it's not the quality of a weapon

in an assassination, but the determination of the

individual involved.

The design is apples to oranges against the Ruger.

The Carcano uses a 6-shot en-bloc clip, somewhat

similar to the Garand, but the comparison ends there.

The internal mag on the Carcano has an open slot @ 3/4" x 1-1/2"

for the clip to drop out of, when empty. The Iron sights are, to be kind,

fair. To give you some idea of how little the Carcano was worth in

1962, they drilled and tapped holes, mounted a scope, and mailed the gun,

all for 19.95 ...

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Triggerjob. You are right its a very old idea. The use of cantilever mounts predated Cooper by one hundred years. My point on the Carcano is that it was a standard rear mounted cheap scope with less than 4" of eye relife. I think a "Tanker" would be a great one.

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The only reason I mentioned it was to illustrate the useful funtionality of a "carbine" style bolt action. At least against heavily guarded moving targets, at moderate range.

I agree with coopers thoughts on the issue, if you were to own just 1 rifle, than a 308 carbine is probly the way to go. Having said that quality guns are so cheap now it isn't cost prohibitive to own a bunch.

Having said all that, if somebody came to me and asked what rifle they should buy and they would only get 1, I would sell them a stainless mini 14 ranch rifle, and feel like I did them a good turn.

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I'd avoid using any rifle, for a scout gun, if you double it's value

when you load it...

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