Originally Posted by Ed Warden
Hi i wonder if someone could give me some advise i am looking to buy my first rifle and am going to get into hunting and long range target shooting say anywhere from 400 to 1000 yards, by hunting i mean dear and elk and maybe black bear what wouild have more power 30-06 7mm mag or 300 win mag those are the three i'm looking at any help would be of great help thanks. Ed
How much do you want to spend Ed? Because that will open or close a lot of doors for you.
Right off the top of my head, thinking just strictly off the shelf calibers that can be had easily I would say 7mm Mag or .300 Win Mag for the applications you are listing. .30-06 is a very good round too, but I would angle more towards the other two because there is a lot more precision ammo available for them. The Aught 6 world has a TON of hunting rounds, but there is also FGMM, which is about as good as it gets, commercially, for match grade ammo - so any set up will work for the applications listed.
Outside of that, you need a stick that is up to the challenge. I would say, honestly, you need a quality action to start with. In a Magnum/Long Action, I don't believe Remington's current offerings are good Long Action's for Magnum Calibers. I'll once again take a beat for saying it, but facts being facts the Remington has the least amount of metal to contain the chamber. In my world, that is a BAD thing.
You're going to need a good barrel, plan on it being at least 26" in length, but a lot of folks who shoot benchrest at 1,000 yards like to have 28" and 29" barrels, so keep that in mind. The longer the barrel, the more accurate the bullet leaving it will be, up to a certain point.
If you are hunting with it too, you can forget "comfortable" weight in my opinion.
There are no pencil thin barrelled rifles shooting 1/2MOA at 1,000 yards. Especially if it's a stock factory gun. Anyone that tells you different is flat trying to sell you something, or lying out of their ass because the Internetz is Sirius Bidness.
Krieger, Mike Rock and Bartlein are all very good barrel makers that I would highly recommend doing some research on.
You are going to want the action, whatever you choose ( factory, semi custom, or completely custom ) to be glass bedded into the stock of your choice. If you don't, there is no sense in spending the money on a quality action and barrel, since you won't be getting the full benefit of what you are buying.
Optics should set you back about half of what the rifle costs, as a rule of thumb. If you can't see it, you can't hit it, no matter how much stick you have in your hands. A $3K rifle with a $200 scope is worthless in my opinion....
Here's a couple of links to a couple of builds that I have had done, have worked on myself, to give you some ideas....
Mjolnir - The 7mm Mag Project
.308 Tactical Rig
Best of luck and feel free to PM if you have any specific questions...