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Old 07-11-2013, 03:08 AM   #11
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Don't shoot them in the a$$.
Destroy heart, or lungs, and some ribs.
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Don't shoot them in the a$$.
Destroy heart, or lungs, and some ribs.
And wouldn't a bullet that holds together instead of 'blowing up' cause less meat damage? After all, they are the same caliber......
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Wouldn't a 130 grain bullet destroy more meat on a large thick skinned heavy boned animal than say a 170 grain?
You can get different "style" bullets in the same weight. No need for your bullet to blow-up unless that is what you want.
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What 'style' of lighter weight bullet is one that wont defragment when hitting heavy boned animals?

And why wouldn't a heavier one be better, for better penetration, like if it hits a heavy shoulder bone? Or brush?

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What 'style' of lighter weight bullet is one that wont defragment when hitting heavy boned animals?
Many of the modern "premium" hunting rounds (partition, monolithic, bonded core) will provide superior penetration and weight retention over the traditional cup-and-core bullets for lighter cartridges against larger, heavier animals.

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And why wouldn't a heavier one be better, for better penetration, like if it hits a heavy shoulder bone? Or brush?
One of the main advantages of the .270 Win over the non-magnum .30 cals is its higher velocity and flatter trajectory. Loading it with heavier bullets defeats this advantage. Heavier isn't always better. If you want heavier bullets without sacrificing velocity and flat trajectory you need to go to something like the. .300 mag and accept the higher cost and greater recoil.

The .270 Win made its reputation as an effective elk gun decades ago using for the most part 130gr cup-and-core bullets, though. Using modern loads just makes an already effective cartridge that much better.
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The .270 is and has been a good 7MM alternative. It has suffered from less than reliable expansion regardless of the bullets. It has a very limited bullet selection. The old .270 like the 30-30 has been a hunting rifle. Like the 30-30 it is not a target rifle. The .270 was made famous 80 years ago by outdoor writer Jack O'Conner and retains some popularity to this day.
I have no idea what "Over-Kill" is? That was a phrase coined by the anti-hunting movement of the 1960s. The .223 would most likely work for you as an alternative rifle for targets and varmints.

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the 223 is not in the same class as the 270

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the 223 is not in the same class as the 270
That is why it was suggested as a second rifle.
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If you like what you have read about the .243 I would recomend getting one. I have 3 currently and they are the rifles you will see me with both hunting and target shooting. The .243 has proven to be an excellent deer rifle for me ( our NC deer are rather small bodied - dont want to stir the adequate deer round pot) and fairly cheap to shoot. I have also never seen an inaccurate .243

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