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chloeshooter 10-23-2012 06:07 PM

Remington and that "Family Traditions" stuff
 
Okay, I know she's (kind of) pretty. I get it. And she puts on lipstick after she shoots the deer. I get it. But HEY, REMINGTON: Improve the quality of your product, be innovative and don't forget what got you that great reputation you used to have!

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It does nothing for me when I see this contrived, stero-typed "hunting family" with kid's names like "Gunner". C'mon, let's get real! Stop throwing this model wanna-be stuff at us and start making your darn trigger guards out of metal again! lol

I own 2 Remington shotguns and 2 Remington deer rifles - all over ten years old. I am not sure if I would buy a new Remington product these days? I certainly wouldn't just because they have a quasi-model-type spokesperson. (Sorry, Haley). I mean, if you are gonna go after my libido, she needs to hunt in the nude.

I'm not the kind of guy that buys a product or drinks a beer because there is a "hot" chick in the ad, or a muscle car, or big 'ol truck in the picture. I want to know how good the product is - and in Remington's case, I think they have lost some quality over the years.

I say, less glitz and more gun from the nation's oldest gun maker.

hardluk1 10-23-2012 08:20 PM

Soooo true. No family tradition here to a firearm company. Exept dan wesson early days. Nice buck.

Khromo 10-25-2012 09:14 PM

I've been a pistol shooter all my life, so I don't know anything about what Remington used to be, but I jumped in this year when those iron sights started to disappear on me! Being a southpaw, I decided to buy a few 700's to test the waters. I bought two at the beginning of the summer to get started with, and two more this fall when the lefties became available.

The .308 Varmint SF shoots five shot groups under 0.50", the .223 SPS Stainless shoots 0.60" groups, and the .308 SPS Varmint LH shoots under 0.50" groups. None of those rifles have seen a gunsmith.

The fourth rifle hasn't been to the range yet, as it shares a scope with the SPS Varmint.

That's not bad, considering I've only been shooting rifles since July. A real rifle shooter could do a lot better, I'm thinking. The finish on the SPS Varmint is like sandpaper, and the scope base needed a lot of shimming to get it straight, but that accuracy is legitimate and consistent. I think for the price, that is a pretty decent product.

I don't take the advertising seriously. That stuff is aimed at Mouth-Breathers, not at me.



IS IT?!?! Because if that ad was aimed at me, I would be OFFENDED!!! Those dirty #%^&**&%$#**(()^$'s!!!

locutus 10-27-2012 02:56 PM

Progress marches on. "Blue steel and walnut" have been replaced by newer, cheaper and better materials.

Instead of fighting improvements, embrace them.

Old_Crow 10-27-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locutus (Post 991807)
Progress marches on. "Blue steel and walnut" have been replaced by newer, cheaper and better materials.

Instead of fighting improvements, embrace them.

But they have to be improvements. Throughout the history of Remington they have either sold their best designs or butchered them somehow.

locutus 10-27-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Crow (Post 991826)
But they have to be improvements. Throughout the history of Remington they have either sold their best designs or butchered them somehow.

I've owned "OLD" 700s that wouldn't group any better than 1.5 inches no matter what you fed them. And new ones that will group 3/4 inch no matter what you feed them.

I consider that an improvement.

I've had "OLD" wooden stocks that had to be rebedded every 4 or 5 years. And new plastic ones that never have to be rebedded. That's an improvement.

Granted, not all change is good. But most of Remington's changes have been good.

Old_Crow 10-28-2012 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locutus (Post 991929)
I've owned "OLD" 700s that wouldn't group any better than 1.5 inches no matter what you fed them. And new ones that will group 3/4 inch no matter what you feed them.

I consider that an improvement.

I've had "OLD" wooden stocks that had to be rebedded every 4 or 5 years. And new plastic ones that never have to be rebedded. That's an improvement.

Granted, not all change is good. But most of Remington's changes have been good.

I have never owned a Remington bolt action rifle in my life, I doubt I ever will. I have owned several Remington Woodmaster semi-auto rifles in my life. They all were as accurate as any gun I have ever owned. But they had one fault, seldom have I seen a woodmaster that would empty a five shot clip without a malfunction.

I have owned plenty of Remington shotguns. They are definitely going downhill. The quality of todays Remington shotguns is horrid. It's sad when a Interstate (Nonrinco Reminton knock off) is an upgrade to the current Remington Express shotguns. Yet the price keeps going up on Remington products.

Axxe55 10-28-2012 01:27 AM

so many times i see this crap about how Remington's quality is slipping! funny in all the gun stores and pawn shops i frequent, i seem to fail at finding thse lemons that all these people are saying are on the shelves. hmmmm... you would think that if that many crappy Remingtons are out there, like all these people on the internet keep talking about, you would think i could find at least one! also funny thing is i have a few new remingtons over the last couple of years, and they function well, and shoot very accurately. funny, because of all the internet rumours and myths, i though they would shoot crappy. funny, either i am very fortunate as to luck upon the very best that Remington has made, or most of those rumours and myths are pure BS! :rolleyes:

dog2000tj 10-28-2012 01:29 AM

if you're unhappy with Remington's products why don't you buy from another manufacturer? :confused:


it's not like they are the only ones who make rifles :rolleyes:

Old_Crow 10-28-2012 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dog2000tj (Post 992510)
if you're unhappy with Remington's products why don't you buy from another manufacturer? :confused:


it's not like they are the only ones who make rifles :rolleyes:

I own one Remington Shotgun that was made well before the express was a dream. You could dump a truckload of new Remington rifles and shotguns in my driveway and I would sell them for scrap if needed to clear my driveway. From my remarks if you think I would buy a new Remington you might need medical attention.


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