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Old 02-27-2013, 04:03 AM   #11
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The 8mm is a K98 and completely stock. I'm not wanting to put a scope on it. So shooting anything over 100 yards with it just isn't happening at least not any animals. Plus the barrel isn't shiny inside like a modern day rifle so I'm doubting it would hold a tight group at any distance.

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OK, I think I see what you were saying. You were referring to your particular 8mm and NOT 8mm's in general. In that case you are correct and only you would know the condition of your Mauser.
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Well I checked out the Marlin and it was nice but I think I want the Remington. Everything I've read and saw about this rifle I like. I also think that it will have a good following. I believe this rifle will be a main stay for along time. Now if I can just find one to buy.
That's reason enough. I love my 700 in 30-06. It's my deer rifle and also range rifle. I'm going to glass bed it this spring. I floated the barrel last year (sanded the wood stock) and it made a big difference at the range. My only worry now is, the company is up for sale........
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The 8mm is a good gun but it is past its prime on the long shots. Its great for a brush gun with a heavy bullet. I just can't see far enough with open sites to to put down anything over 100 yards.My Dad gave my youngest brother his Remington 700. Its a great gun don't get me wrong but its cherrie and I wouldn't even think about borrowing that gun to go hunting with. I like the looks of the 783 and I think it might just fit my need for a first rifle.
Send me a PM on your 8x57, I may be able to help get her back to good groups, successful hunt. I started w/ 8x57 and it is still my go to round.
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The 8mm is a K98 and completely stock. I'm not wanting to put a scope on it. So shooting anything over 100 yards with it just isn't happening at least not any animals. Plus the barrel isn't shiny inside like a modern day rifle so I'm doubting it would hold a tight group at any distance.
I'd make a trade w/ you if your K98 is good for a newer hunter. Not a garbage rifle on my side, I'm a Mauser guy. Where are you located?? Send a PM.
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That's reason enough. I love my 700 in 30-06. It's my deer rifle and also range rifle. I'm going to glass bed it this spring. I floated the barrel last year (sanded the wood stock) and it made a big difference at the range. My only worry now is, the company is up for sale........
I wouldn't be worried about them being up for sale, the way people talk about the current ownership its amazing they're still in business with the amount of bad press they get. I would say the brand can only get better from where it is currently. The 700 is a fine rifle, accurate and smooth action, can't say the same for the 770 action, maybe they are accurate enough to kill a deer but that is not how I judge accuracy or quality. These value guns are ok if that's what you're after but I honestly can't believe companies who have quality offerings are willing to stamp there names on some of this stuff.
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I can see why Remigton and other companies make different guns but of the same caliber, they have to have a line up of different guns to stay in business. Sure the 700 is the king by alot of peoples standards but how do you improve on that? I think by trying new things like the 783. But whats confusing is you can buy a new 700 model for almost what they are offering the 783 at. There is alot of different 700 out there and they are not all the same. Some are better then others. As to my mauser, its a russian capture in great shape. I don't know if the bolt is the same or not as the original. I doubt it but there isn't any gun smiths around where I live to take the gun and have it checked out. It would be nice to crome the inside of the barrel. Not sure if they can even do that. Its not that bad but its not shiny. I love this gun and I wished it could be fixed up to hunt elk and mule deer or just to shoot targets at 300 yards. Some one buy me the 783 and I'll trade you the mauser.

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I can see why Remigton and other companies make different guns but of the same caliber, they have to have a line up of different guns to stay in business. Sure the 700 is the king by alot of peoples standards but how do you improve on that? I think by trying new things like the 783. But whats confusing is you can buy a new 700 model for almost what they are offering the 783 at. There is alot of different 700 out there and they are not all the same. Some are better then others. As to my mauser, its a russian capture in great shape. I don't know if the bolt is the same or not as the original. I doubt it but there isn't any gun smiths around where I live to take the gun and have it checked out. It would be nice to crome the inside of the barrel. Not sure if they can even do that. Its not that bad but its not shiny. I love this gun and I wished it could be fixed up to hunt elk and mule deer or just to shoot targets at 300 yards. Some one buy me the 783 and I'll trade you the mauser.
That is my point, the 783 isn't going to improve on the 700, it may possibly be an improvement on the 770 which is another value gun with a somewhat poor reputation, the 783 action looks to be modeled after the 770 more than the 700 though they do have a better system of fastening the barrel to the action as well as an adjustable trigger. Maybe it will replace the 770 and be an improvement. There has always been a lower priced 700 it was called the ADL, I don't know if it is still called that or they changed the name, but I believe they still have something similar and it would be a vast improvement over the 770 style action. There are many different 700s, yes but they all have one thing in common, the 700 action, that is what the 770 and 783 lack and why I don't believe they are near the quality. Those rifles are designed around taking max advantage of automation to produce a rifle as cheap as possible to fit into the price niche they are looking to compete in.
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That is my point, the 783 isn't going to improve on the 700, it may possibly be an improvement on the 770 which is another value gun with a somewhat poor reputation, the 783 action looks to be modeled after the 770 more than the 700 though they do have a better system of fastening the barrel to the action as well as an adjustable trigger. Maybe it will replace the 770 and be an improvement. There has always been a lower priced 700 it was called the ADL, I don't know if it is still called that or they changed the name, but I believe they still have something similar and it would be a vast improvement over the 770 style action. There are many different 700s, yes but they all have one thing in common, the 700 action, that is what the 770 and 783 lack and why I don't believe they are near the quality. Those rifles are designed around taking max advantage of automation to produce a rifle as cheap as possible to fit into the price niche they are looking to compete in.
hopefully that is the case that the M783 will take the place of the M770. IMO, the M770 and M710 were some of the worst ideas ever to come from Remington.

the ADL use to be wood and was the cheaper version of the M700 BDL. then they changed from a wood stock to a synthetic one and later they changed them to the SPS. IIRC, the SPS is the cheapest M700 available.
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Yea I believe in what your saying and I think Remington should put that information out there. You would also think that they would use the same bolt on this if thats what makes the 700 so popular and dependable. I think they should do a side by side comparison. I still would like to find the 783 and check it out and compare it to a 700 thats close to the same price.

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