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Old 12-03-2010, 03:39 PM   #1
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Default Rem 700 SPS vs. WBY Vanguard

Hey, im looking for some advise on the 700 SPS and the WBY Vanguard.

Anybody tried them both looking for some pros and cons.

Keep in mind that the factory stock with be changed

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Might do some poking around, as this has been discussed quite a bit. Some standard questions that you need to help us to help you are:

What do you want the rifle to do for you? Hunter? Competition? Plinker? Benchrest?

What caliber and what is your expected level of performance with the piece? Are you expecting to shoot cloverleafs at 500 yards, or do you want to bust clay pigeons at 100 yards with your buddies?

What is your budget for the gun? And what is the budget for the whole package ( scope, rings, base, ammo ).

Plenty of good info here, but we need some more input to be able to advise with any true sense.

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Sorry, it was kind of vague.

Here is the situation, I am looking to "build" a new rifle. 300WM, 300RUM, 300wby, or 338WM. I have another thread to discuss this.

However depending on what I discover from your experiances/knowledge on these models, it may possibly rule out some of these cals. for me.

So, im looking for a rifle for hunting bruins and moose.

I do visit range often and do my own reloads.

As far as accuracy, something I can keep under MOA @ 100.
Also something that i can reach out there 300-500yds with decent amount of takedown power.

As for my budget im looking to piece a package together for under a grand.

I do my shopping online, so I can shave of some expence there.

Hope this helps you help me

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If your looking to build, look at the Howa barreled actions. Same as the Weatherby Vangaurd.
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BTW, That is allot of rifle for our Eastern Moose and bears. .300WM would be more than enough.

Also, check out Boyds stocks. I bought a thumbhole for my sons Swede 6.5x55 and a classic for my Swede/FN 8x57 large ring.

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Check out my write up on why you should buy a Savage rifle. For the price, which is well under your range, I doubt you will find a better rifle.

The WB's are expensive and the Rems keep going down hill, Savage just keeps getting better.

As a retired Gunsmith, I have worked on all of them and there are many good rifles out there, it's just that many company's have been cutting corners in the last year or two.

They are not making the same quality rifle you used to be able to buy.
It's the sad truth. The ecomomy and trying to keep costs down to maximize profits is the main cause of the cheapening of many rifle brands.

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The Weatherby Mark V is expensive the Vanguard/Howa are not.

If you are wanting to build a rifle Either the Savage or the Howa/Vanguard is the way to go. Both are much better actions over all that the Remington.

JD has a great write up about the remington and Howa action stickied at the top of this section.

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The Weatherby Mark V is expensive the Vanguard/Howa are not.

If you are wanting to build a rifle Either the Savage or the Howa/Vanguard is the way to go. Both are much better actions over all that the Remington.

JD has a great write up about the remington and Howa action stickied at the top of this section.
I agree that the Howa is also a great rile. The only problem with the Howa is it's not as easy to re barrel as the Savage and the shank of the barrel is cut in metric threads which is somtimes are of a pain to cut. More adjustments to the lathe for the gunsmith.

I built a Howa in 22-250. It was not all that tough, but the Savage is a breeze compared to the Howa to upgrade.

Also with the Savage, if you want to get one to re barrel and upgrade, get the double port action, they take the largest diameter barrel for varnent and long distance use.

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I agree that the Howa is also a great rile. The only problem with the Howa is it's not as easy to re barrel as the Savage and the shank of the barrel is cut in metric threads which is somtimes are of a pain to cut. More adjustments to the lathe for the gunsmith.

I built a Howa in 22-250. It was not all that tough, but the Savage is a breeze compared to the Howa to upgrade.

Also with the Savage, if you want to get one to re barrel and upgrade, get the double port action, they take the largest diameter barrel for varnent and long distance use.

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Are you sure you don't work for Savage??
I own 1 Savage, it is a great rifle, but my Howa is far better IMHO.
Remember, it is a hunter, so weight is a consideration.
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I have handled a vanguard, but not a Howa, I have heard that they are pretty much the same rifle, right?

What I have in my head right now is:

338 win mag vanguard with knoxx axiom stock to help with recoil (I weigh 165 )

What do you think of this combo.

This will leave me a few $$ for a nice scope and any smithing i need done.....

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Are you sure you don't work for Savage??
I own 1 Savage, it is a great rifle, but my Howa is far better IMHO.
Remember, it is a hunter, so weight is a consideration.
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