Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > General Rifle Discussion > recoil on 45-70 lever ?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-18-2010, 01:36 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Idaho --,Happy
Posts: 1,905
Liked 341 Times on 237 Posts
Likes Given: 38

Default recoil on 45-70 lever ?

So, what is the recoil like, 12 gauge ? lightweight 30-06 ? Would you take it to the range and shoot five shots and be done with it or a hundred shots?

__________________
Flat Tire is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 08-18-2010, 01:55 PM   #2
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Silvertip 44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Acworth, Georgia
Posts: 367
Liked 6 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Well, Flat, it's going to be a bit hefty. Probably somewhere on par with a 3" 12 ga high velocity turkey load in a light Mossberg 500. I have a .444 and with full power loads and a 240 gr. projectile, it was getting to be a bit uncomfortable, but was a fine deer killer---what was left.

__________________
Silvertip 44 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2010, 02:22 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Idaho --,Happy
Posts: 1,905
Liked 341 Times on 237 Posts
Likes Given: 38

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvertip 44 View Post
Well, Flat, it's going to be a bit hefty. Probably somewhere on par with a 3" 12 ga high velocity turkey load in a light Mossberg 500. I have a .444 and with full power loads and a 240 gr. projectile, it was getting to be a bit uncomfortable, but was a fine deer killer---what was left.
why do you need that big-o-gun for deer ?
__________________
Flat Tire is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2010, 02:27 PM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Stafford, Virginia,The state of insanity.
Posts: 14,043
Liked 33 Times on 28 Posts

Default

Because it is fun to shoot. The 45-70 make for a great brush gun for deer, hogs, and many other game animals.

My next rifle if going to be a Marling guide gun in 45-70. It is like hunting with History.

__________________
cpttango30 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2010, 03:01 PM   #5
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
robocop10mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin,Texas, by God!!
Posts: 10,005
Liked 2688 Times on 1405 Posts
Likes Given: 216

Default

My Guide Gun kicks like a 12 ga slug with my hot load (340@2100fps). A bit less with factory (detuned) ammo.

__________________

In life, strive to take the high road....It offers a better field of fire.
"Robo is right" Fuzzball

robocop10mm is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2010, 03:15 PM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Idaho --,Happy
Posts: 1,905
Liked 341 Times on 237 Posts
Likes Given: 38

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robocop10mm View Post
My Guide Gun kicks like a 12 ga slug with my hot load (340@2100fps). A bit less with factory (detuned) ammo.
What is "factory (detuned) ammo" ?
__________________
Flat Tire is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2010, 04:29 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
stalkingbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lebanon,Ky
Posts: 3,621
Liked 11 Times on 10 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Factory ammo, except for Buffalo Bore and the like, is loaded down to be safe in the Trapdoor Springfields. Naturally since they aren't safe with higher pressure loads almost all factory loads are loaded down. The exceptions are Buffalo Bore and those are only safe in modern rifles with locking breech such as the Marlin lever rifles, falling blocks such as the Ruger and Sharps, and break actions such as the H&R.

__________________

Sometimes you earthlings REALLY amaze me!

stalkingbear is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2010, 06:15 PM   #8
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
robocop10mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin,Texas, by God!!
Posts: 10,005
Liked 2688 Times on 1405 Posts
Likes Given: 216

Default

The older rifles were designed to shoot the original black powder cartirdges. The modern smokeless powders are capable of making MUCH TOO MUCH pressure for these older rifles. The major manufacturers are concerned about their liability if somebody puts a high pressure round into a gun that can never be expected to safely shoot it.

SO, they "detune" or load the ammo lightly so they do not kill some idiot with a trapdoor Springfield.

__________________

In life, strive to take the high road....It offers a better field of fire.
"Robo is right" Fuzzball

robocop10mm is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2010, 06:40 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Silvertip 44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Acworth, Georgia
Posts: 367
Liked 6 Times on 4 Posts

Default

I haven't taken the .444 out of the safe for hunting in over 15 years. I got it due to a deal I couldn't refuse. Deer hunting now is with .308 and smaller.

__________________
Silvertip 44 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2010, 06:07 AM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Alaska
Posts: 2,323
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Silvertip, if you want to sell that .444 pm me. The Lovely Mrs has never forgiven me for trading of "hers" 20 yrs ago. I bought her the short, ported Outfitter model, but she just hasn't cottoned to it.

__________________
freefall is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
henry 22 lever ripcord .22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion 45 09-26-2009 07:59 PM
45-70 lever duckidaho Hunting Forum 6 03-03-2009 12:10 AM
Lever action 30-30 Luminescence General Rifle Discussion 3 02-05-2009 10:32 PM
lever problem toader51 Gunsmithing Forum 4 10-28-2008 05:33 AM
Henry lever mrwatch .22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion 5 03-16-2008 10:47 PM