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10-13-2011, 07:56 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 151 | quick question plz help.
Hay everyone I was just wondering do firing pins really break because of dry firing? Also dose keeping mags loaded damage there spring? |
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10-13-2011, 08:12 PM | #2 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calhoun, Louisiana Posts: 6,189 Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
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Up for debate with some people. It's generally considered not a good idea by many people to dry fire anything. As with many situations, you should contact the manufacturer.
S&W says you can dry fire any of their revolvers except rimfires. The Ruger Mark III is supposed to be designed so that you can dry fire it, but I don't know.
Really the manufacturer is the best way to address this question, and sometimes (as in the case of S&W) it's available on the manufacturer's website. __________________ LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!! |
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10-13-2011, 08:16 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 2,117 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts Likes Given: 1
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Up for debate with some people. It's generally considered not a good idea by many people to dry fire anything. As with many situations, you should contact the manufacturer.
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I personally DO NOT dry fire anything if i can help it...i just dont see where its a good thing. If i am going to do dry fire practice/drills i will oad the chamber with a spent cartridge.
As far as leaving mags. loaded i cant see where it can be a good thing to keepo springs compressed. __________________ "Those that would trade essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." - Benjammin Franklin |
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10-13-2011, 08:20 PM | #4 | Get off the dang roof Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mid-Atlantic, NC Posts: 1,550 Likes Given: 5
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Keeping mags loaded will not usually damage the springs, it's the actual use that wears on the springs. If storing a mag long term loaded, leave one or two rounds out just to be safe. Most manuals will tell you if dry firing is going to hurt your gun, worst case, call the manufacturer, snap caps are good too. __________________ Do unto others as you would have others do unto you...just do it first |
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10-13-2011, 08:24 PM | #5 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calhoun, Louisiana Posts: 6,189 Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
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That's why I mentioned S&W. If you break it doing something approved by the company, they get to fix it. __________________ LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!! |
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10-13-2011, 08:26 PM | #6 | Get off the dang roof Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mid-Atlantic, NC Posts: 1,550 Likes Given: 5
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Ruger's pretty much the same, which is why I own 3 of them __________________ Do unto others as you would have others do unto you...just do it first |
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10-13-2011, 08:28 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: , TX Posts: 1,119 |
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Originally Posted by shootitout
Hay everyone I was just wondering do firing pins really break because of dry firing? Also dose keeping mags loaded damage there spring?
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I always use snap caps when dry firing. They are cheap insurance the way I see it but agree that best bet is to check with the gun manufacturer.
I read that keeping mags loaded will not hurt the springs...unless you stress it beyond its limit (i.e. compressed more than it should like putting an extra round). General consensus is to keep the mag loaded one less than full. Just for extra safety margin but as designed, mags should be fine even when fully loaded. It is the cycling (compression and decompression) that damages the spring. __________________ “Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”
"Memories are pictures in your mind." - Kathryn (my 3 year old daughter) Last edited by Poink88; 10-13-2011 at 08:53 PM. |
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10-13-2011, 08:34 PM | #8 | Dead Wolves = Good Wolves Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Rochester WI, Rochester WI Posts: 8,309 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
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the only firing pins that can break from dry firing are the ones that are on old revolvers where the pin is attached to the hammer.
think about it like this: how much force is the firing pin subjected to when a round goes off as opposed to when its dry fired?? which do you think is exerting more force on the part??
springs only lose their strength through work. sitting compressed or uncompressed does nothing to accelerate wear. only the compression/decompression cycle itself wears springs. if you want to wear out a magazine spring keep unloading it and loading it to let the spring "rest" __________________ "Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith
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10-13-2011, 08:38 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 405 |
What I do & I'm no smith or pro.
If it has an exposed hammer I dry fire it.
If it has an internal I don't dry fire & use caps.
I've never had a problem.
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10-13-2011, 08:41 PM | #10 | Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: , TX Posts: 1,119 |
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Originally Posted by JonM
think about it like this: how much force is the firing pin subjected to when a round goes off as opposed to when its dry fired?? which do you think is exerting more force on the part??
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From what I've read, it is the spring or retainer pins that can break...not the firing pin. The firing pin or striker should only move forward so much...without the ammo to stop it, it will go further causing the problem(s). __________________ “Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”
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