precision rifle?

270 win · 03-09-2010, 03:07 AM

I am looking to buy a fairly cheap precision or " sniper " rifle. The calibers i would like are, 300 wsm, 7mm remington mag, and possibly 300 win mag. I would like to be able to shoot at least 800 yards with this rifle, maximum being 1500. Next I would like to put a grey bull precision scope on it, does anyone have any info on these scopes? For this whole project i would like to keep my total under $2000. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Wambli · 03-09-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 270 win

I am looking to buy a fairly cheap precision or " sniper " rifle. The calibers i would like are, 300 wsm, 7mm remington mag, and possibly 300 win mag. I would like to be able to shoot at least 800 yards with this rifle, maximum being 1500. Next I would like to put a grey bull precision scope on it, does anyone have any info on these scopes? For this whole project i would like to keep my total under $2000. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Here's my take on Grey Bull. They are selling you a Leupold Custom Shop VX-III. Why not buy the scope from a Leupold rep directly? I built a precision gun for my buddy for about $1000 and it has worked out well. Remingtom 700 SPS Varmint in .308. Bell and Carlson Varmint Medalist stock (action bedded to the stock), Timney trigger and you still have $1,000 left to spend on optics/rings/bases.

**cpttango30** · 03-09-2010, 11:58 AM

Even being the local Remington Fanboy. Your not shooting 1500 yards with a 700 action unless you do lots of work to it.

Building a 1k rifle is not just slapping a stock on a remy700 and puting a fancy scope on it. That may get you some hits on 12x12' target but your not going to do any good with that.

For a long range stick your looking at $1500 +$500 just to make a factory remmy action into a half way decent one for the job. you best bet is going to be get a stiller viper action (based on the 700) then put that into a good mcmillian or SG&Y stock.

gotta leave will post more now.

**opaww** · 03-09-2010, 12:08 PM

For ranges past 1000 yards you will need to go with something with a little more ass behind it. Such as a .338 Lapua mag. Maybe a .416 Rigby/416 Barrett. I heard that they were making the Rem.700 in .338 Lapua Mag now but I have not seen one.

270 win · 03-09-2010, 01:54 PM

Im not planning on shooting much over 1000, i just through 1500yds out there as a once in a while "pot shot". I really like winchester rifles, I'd buy one over a remington any day. What about Savage? I've heard good reviews on there accuracy, shilen makes barrels for the savage, so if i bought a savage in 300 wsm, and through a shilen barrel on it, bedded the action, and had it free floated, do you think this would be a good start?

270 win · 03-09-2010, 02:01 PM

And put a bell and carlson varmint/tactical adjustable stock on it.

**cpttango30** · 03-09-2010, 02:50 PM

Even being the local Remington Fanboy. Your not shooting 1500 yards with a 700 action unless you do lots of work to it.

Building a 1k rifle is not just slapping a stock on a remy700 and puting a fancy scope on it. That may get you some hits on 12x12' target but your not going to do any good with that.

For a long range stick your looking at $1500 +$500 just to make a factory remmy action into a half way decent one for the job. you best bet is going to be get a stiller viper action (based on the 700) then put that into a good mcmillian or SG&Y stock.

Cont.....

OK the amount of work a smith is going to put into any stock action is going to negate the cost of it and push the cost up to that of a custom action that doesn't need the blueprinting job. Also If I were going to use a 700 action for that kind of a gun I sure as heck would have it sleeved. There is where you take and you build a big aluminum sleeve and press the action into it. This creates a stiffer action that can take more abuse maybe but it will be stiffer and that much more accurate.

About the only action or gun your going to get away with and have any kind of accuracy out at 1k yards is going to be the Savage F-class or Palma rifle.

Now on to optics. I have never heard of the company you talk about but if you look at long range optics Leupold and nightforce are great scopes but they are the bottom end of the spectrum. Heck you can get a Sightron SIII that is 1/2 the price and will be clearer and brighter than anything nightforce or leupold can put up against it.

If I were going for a entry F-Class rifle it would be the savage F-tr in 6.5-284 with a SIII SS 10-50X60mm LR TD.

Anymore and you are looking at a custom build all the way.

**opaww** · 03-09-2010, 02:51 PM

The Savage is a trusted weapon, as is the Winchester. You can do a lot to them to tweek the rifle. But don't over looks other rifles like the Howa, or maybe the CZ. Here is my rig and some fair shooting with it.

Range report 03-04-2010

**opaww** · 03-09-2010, 02:54 PM

What Tango said.

270 win · 03-09-2010, 10:33 PM

Ok, I've established that I do not want a remington 700 action, for the simple fact that everyone and there dog has one. As far as Howa rifles go, it is very hard to find them here in Alberta, or Canada for that matter. What about weatherby vanguards?

03-09-2010, 03:07 AM	#1
270 win Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 77	precision rifle? I am looking to buy a fairly cheap precision or " sniper " rifle. The calibers i would like are, 300 wsm, 7mm remington mag, and possibly 300 win mag. I would like to be able to shoot at least 800 yards with this rifle, maximum being 1500. Next I would like to put a grey bull precision scope on it, does anyone have any info on these scopes? For this whole project i would like to keep my total under $2000. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

03-09-2010, 11:58 AM	#3
cpttango30 Spicoli Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Stafford VA (Just south of the Rat Race) Posts: 8,399	Even being the local Remington Fanboy. Your not shooting 1500 yards with a 700 action unless you do lots of work to it. Building a 1k rifle is not just slapping a stock on a remy700 and puting a fancy scope on it. That may get you some hits on 12x12' target but your not going to do any good with that. For a long range stick your looking at $1500 +$500 just to make a factory remmy action into a half way decent one for the job. you best bet is going to be get a stiller viper action (based on the 700) then put that into a good mcmillian or SG&Y stock. gotta leave will post more now. __________________ Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors.- *Dr. Sheldon Cooper*

03-09-2010, 12:08 PM	#4
opaww Supporting Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Radcliff Ky. Posts: 1,928	For ranges past 1000 yards you will need to go with something with a little more ass behind it. Such as a .338 Lapua mag. Maybe a .416 Rigby/416 Barrett. I heard that they were making the Rem.700 in .338 Lapua Mag now but I have not seen one. __________________ Lo there do I see my Father...Lo there do I see my mother and my brothers and sisters...Lo there do I see the line of my peoples back to the begaining...Tho they do call to me...They bid me come take my place among them in the Halls of Valhalla...Where the brave may live forever Opaww's Range Opaww's Blog Long distance..The next best thing to being there

03-09-2010, 02:50 PM	#7
cpttango30 Spicoli Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Stafford VA (Just south of the Rat Race) Posts: 8,399	Even being the local Remington Fanboy. Your not shooting 1500 yards with a 700 action unless you do lots of work to it. Building a 1k rifle is not just slapping a stock on a remy700 and puting a fancy scope on it. That may get you some hits on 12x12' target but your not going to do any good with that. For a long range stick your looking at $1500 +$500 just to make a factory remmy action into a half way decent one for the job. you best bet is going to be get a stiller viper action (based on the 700) then put that into a good mcmillian or SG&Y stock. Cont..... OK the amount of work a smith is going to put into any stock action is going to negate the cost of it and push the cost up to that of a custom action that doesn't need the blueprinting job. Also If I were going to use a 700 action for that kind of a gun I sure as heck would have it sleeved. There is where you take and you build a big aluminum sleeve and press the action into it. This creates a stiffer action that can take more abuse maybe but it will be stiffer and that much more accurate. About the only action or gun your going to get away with and have any kind of accuracy out at 1k yards is going to be the Savage F-class or Palma rifle. Now on to optics. I have never heard of the company you talk about but if you look at long range optics Leupold and nightforce are great scopes but they are the bottom end of the spectrum. Heck you can get a Sightron SIII that is 1/2 the price and will be clearer and brighter than anything nightforce or leupold can put up against it. If I were going for a entry F-Class rifle it would be the savage F-tr in 6.5-284 with a SIII SS 10-50X60mm LR TD. Anymore and you are looking at a custom build all the way. __________________ Scissors cuts paper, paper covers rock, rock crushes lizard, lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes scissors, scissors decapitates lizard, lizard eats paper, paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes rock, and as it always has, rock crushes scissors.- *Dr. Sheldon Cooper*

03-09-2010, 02:51 PM	#8
opaww Supporting Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Radcliff Ky. Posts: 1,928	The Savage is a trusted weapon, as is the Winchester. You can do a lot to them to tweek the rifle. But don't over looks other rifles like the Howa, or maybe the CZ. Here is my rig and some fair shooting with it. Range report 03-04-2010 __________________ Lo there do I see my Father...Lo there do I see my mother and my brothers and sisters...Lo there do I see the line of my peoples back to the begaining...Tho they do call to me...They bid me come take my place among them in the Halls of Valhalla...Where the brave may live forever Opaww's Range Opaww's Blog Long distance..The next best thing to being there

03-09-2010, 01:54 PM	#5
270 win Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 77	Im not planning on shooting much over 1000, i just through 1500yds out there as a once in a while "pot shot". I really like winchester rifles, I'd buy one over a remington any day. What about Savage? I've heard good reviews on there accuracy, shilen makes barrels for the savage, so if i bought a savage in 300 wsm, and through a shilen barrel on it, bedded the action, and had it free floated, do you think this would be a good start?

03-09-2010, 02:01 PM	#6
270 win Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 77	And put a bell and carlson varmint/tactical adjustable stock on it.

03-09-2010, 02:54 PM	#9
opaww Supporting Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Radcliff Ky. Posts: 1,928	What Tango said. __________________ Lo there do I see my Father...Lo there do I see my mother and my brothers and sisters...Lo there do I see the line of my peoples back to the begaining...Tho they do call to me...They bid me come take my place among them in the Halls of Valhalla...Where the brave may live forever Opaww's Range Opaww's Blog Long distance..The next best thing to being there

03-09-2010, 10:33 PM	#10
270 win Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 77	Ok, I've established that I do not want a remington 700 action, for the simple fact that everyone and there dog has one. As far as Howa rifles go, it is very hard to find them here in Alberta, or Canada for that matter. What about weatherby vanguards?

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