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Old 11-24-2013, 04:30 AM   #21
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If you do not hand load you will not be able to shoot any range very much. The quality factory ammo is going to cost $40 dollars per box and 20 rounds go fast when zeroing at 600 meters.
Shooting 100 rounds in an afternoon on "Swinging" iron is not unusual.

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I had a Remington 700 SPS in .270 that I used for deer...Got it for $300 a couple years back..had to put a scope on it, though.

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My advice is to save up a bit more money, buy a Howa or Savage or Remington in .308, and then save up some more money for a decent quality scope.

The only thing that's attractive about cheap rifles is the price. You'll forget what you paid for the rifle but the quality and accuracy of the rifle is pretty apparent every time you shoot it.

While it is true that there are various inexpensive WWII rifles available, it's also true that most of them are not equivalent to a modern Howa, Savage, Remington, or most other major brands one could name off.

The Howa, Savage, and Remington were all designed to use optics and if you intend to hit targets at distances much over 100 yards, it's much easier to do that with optics than iron sights. I'm sure someone here will come along to regale us with tales of how they shot the wings off a gnat at a 1000 yards with iron sights.

If you think the rifle is expensive, just wait till you see your ammo bill at the end of the year. I understand that money doesn't grow on trees, but try to think in terms of availability, usability, maintainability, and compatibility instead of simply what it costs to get your hands on any given rifle.

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My advice is to save up a bit more money, buy a Howa or Savage or Remington in .308, and then save up some more money for a decent quality scope.

The only thing that's attractive about cheap rifles is the price. You'll forget what you paid for the rifle but the quality and accuracy of the rifle is pretty apparent every time you shoot it.

While it is true that there are various inexpensive WWII rifles available, it's also true that most of them are not equivalent to a modern Howa, Savage, Remington, or most other major brands one could name off.

The Howa, Savage, and Remington were all designed to use optics and if you intend to hit targets at distances much over 100 yards, it's much easier to do that with optics than iron sights. I'm sure someone here will come along to regale us with tales of how they shot the wings off a gnat at a 1000 yards with iron sights.

If you think the rifle is expensive, just wait till you see your ammo bill at the end of the year. I understand that money doesn't grow on trees, but try to think in terms of availability, usability, maintainability, and compatibility instead of simply what it costs to get your hands on any given rifle.
i have a few inexpensive rifles and have shot quite a few that will definately hold their own with rifles costing twice or even three times as much. i don't own any "cheap" rifles.

the Marlin X7's, the Savage Axis's, the Mossberg ATR100's, the Remington M783 and the Ruger American's are all budget priced and inexpensive rifles.

i'd sure like to hear what you class as "cheap" rifles though.
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One good thing about a cheap rifle is it can become your hunting gun when you are ready to shoot farther.

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One good thing about a cheap rifle is it can become your hunting gun when you are ready to shoot farther.
but i don't own any cheap rifles!

just some inexpensive ones.
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but i don't own any cheap rifles!

just some inexpensive ones.
True, very true!
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I don't know about anyone elses' definition of cheap vs inexpensive but to me,
CHEAP is poor attention to detail in design and manufacturing, parts or pieces made out of poor quality material, no matter what the price!
INEXPENSIVE is at a reasonable or below price as an example I bought a Remington 721 at a pawn shop for $150.00 that was an inexpensive price as a) it had a "Tasco" 3-9X32 scope, b) a 10 # pull and signs of age ( it's older than I am), I bought it in 1997, it it still my goto gun for any time I'm outdoors (except for small game).
I had to have a trigger job done on it, (now 5#) had to send it back to Rem. re trigger/ safety recall fix, and my daughter fell with it and broke the scope and replaced it with a scope that cost more than the whole thing cost me.
That is an inexpensive gun and it shoots better than I do. How do I know? My son in law tried it first time and got 1/2 moa group out of it!
Ammo 30-06 springfield, Rem. Coreloct, 165 gr.

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I don't know about anyone elses' definition of cheap vs inexpensive but to me,
CHEAP is poor attention to detail in design and manufacturing, parts or pieces made out of poor quality material, no matter what the price!
INEXPENSIVE is at a reasonable or below price as an example I bought a Remington 721 at a pawn shop for $150.00 that was an inexpensive price as a) it had a "Tasco" 3-9X32 scope, b) a 10 # pull and signs of age ( it's older than I am), I bought it in 1997, it it still my goto gun for any time I'm outdoors (except for small game).
I had to have a trigger job done on it, (now 5#) had to send it back to Rem. re trigger/ safety recall fix, and my daughter fell with it and broke the scope and replaced it with a scope that cost more than the whole thing cost me.
That is an inexpensive gun and it shoots better than I do. How do I know? My son in law tried it first time and got 1/2 moa group out of it!
Ammo 30-06 springfield, Rem. Coreloct, 165 gr.
the Remington M721 was the predecesor of the M725 which was the predecesor of the M700. much or the action and bolt features were incorporated into the M700. they were pretty similiar rifles.

from what i read, a lot of target and benchrest shooters were still making custom rifles using the actions from the M721, when the M700 were coming onto the market.

from the pictures i have seen of the M721 and the M722, (the short action version of the M721) they just weren't as pretty as the M700, but were just as solid and reliable.
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This is the best picture I have of MY 721

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