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octavianparvu 11-24-2009 03:29 AM

Please help me to find an old rifle carabine.
 
Hello.
I am looking foa a old rifle for almost 1 year and i can't find the model.
If somebody can help me to find the model of the rifle it will be great.

The gun if from the movie "THE TRAP(1966)" with Oliver Reed.

I am looking for Oliver Reed rifle from that movie.

link for picture 1 :http://members.cox.net/rjd0309b/tush/images/Rita-Tushingham-The-Trap-Adam-1058x840.jpeg
link fot picture 2 : http://members.cox.net/tushmail/tush/images/Rita-Tushingham-The-Trap-Teach-815x1040.jpeg

TXnorton 11-24-2009 11:04 AM

It looks like an American Civil War vintage 1859 Sharps (union calvary or a confederate carbine). Maybe converted from paper cartridges to 50-70 metallic.

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cpttango30 11-24-2009 11:07 AM

Looks kinda like a Springfield trapdoor.

30-30remchester 11-24-2009 11:32 PM

The photo is too small to identify the rifle. It is not a trapdoor Springfield as it is a 2 piece stock and all trapdoors used one piece stocks. It does resemble an early Sharps carbine however it didnt start life as a carbine. Sharps carbines didnt use a barrel band to hold the forarm on, so it might have been a rifle if it is truly a Sharps. Can you get a closer pic?

TXnorton 11-25-2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30-30remchester (Post 190326)
The photo is too small to identify the rifle. It is not a trapdoor Springfield as it is a 2 piece stock and all trapdoors used one piece stocks. It does resemble an early Sharps carbine however it didnt start life as a carbine. Sharps carbines didnt use a barrel band to hold the forarm on, so it might have been a rifle if it is truly a Sharps. Can you get a closer pic?

30-30 - not to agrue, but I think the Sharps 1863 carbine DID use a barrel band for the forearm. Please follow the links below.

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BillM 11-25-2009 02:34 PM

Not a Sharps. Not a trapdoor. Possible a made-for-the-movies based on a
Martini?

Has side "ears" that come back into the buttstock for a horizontal bolt.
Side hammer, lever operated.

British maybe? Swiss/German/Austrian/Belgian? I'm going to guess from
what I see in the picture and what I could get from a glimpse of a
movie clip on Youtube that it's a Martini type tipping block action.

ETA: Getting close--- http://www.militaryrifles.com/Spain/More1870SpanPeab.htm

OK---It's a Peabody. Different versions had minor variations. Based on what I can see
in the picture, the rear sight looks like it MAY be a cut down 1866 Canadian.

OR--a Russian contract Peabody Carbine made in Rhode Island?
http://www.prices4antiques.com/firearms-edged-weapons/long-guns/Long-Gun-Rifle-Providence-Tool-Peabody-Carbine-50RF-Caliber-D9974228.htm

30-30remchester 11-28-2009 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXnorton (Post 190475)
30-30 - not to agrue, but I think the Sharps 1863 carbine DID use a barrel band for the forearm. Please follow the links below.

Collector's Firearms

Collector's Firearms

Well I went to my gun safe and inspected my 1863 Sharps and you are correct. It seems I dont shoot it much anymore, a problem I shall cure soon.

TXnorton 11-29-2009 09:44 AM

30-30:

Tell me a bit about your 1863 Sharps. I have the bug for one, and it is on the Xmas list that I have (kindly) provided for the wife. I am looking at buying the Pedersoli replica of the "Robinson" Confederate carbine. I am very interested in the paper cartridge concept.

30-30remchester 11-29-2009 03:26 PM

TX norton: Well my Sharps is an original 1863 US military carbine that was converted after the war to accept the 50-70 gov't cartridge. Nothing special about it, just an interesting piece of American history. After the civil war most went out west to supply the calvery then were either sold dirt cheap or given by our government, to settlers, surveyer, wagontrains, buffalo hunters, ect. If you used your to hunt buffalo the government would give you free ammo at any fort that had any. Since it was mine I have used it to harvest one buffalo.

dunerunner 11-29-2009 03:35 PM

Closer Pic.

http://members.cox.net/tushmail/tush...-815x1040.jpeg


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