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Alpha1Victor 04-26-2014 06:25 PM

OK everyone, I need some help!
 
I am in the market for a truck gun. I have narrowed it down to 2 options.

The Marlin 336 in 30-30.
And
Mossberg MVP patrol in .308

I like the mossberg due to the fact it's chambered in .308 which I currently reload. I also like it because I'm familiar with bolt guns.

I have always wanted a lever gun but have no experience with them. I have heard great things about them and the legendary 30-30.

Like I said this will primarily be used for a truck gun inside of 300 yards.

Does anyone have other recommendations or experience with either gun to help in my decision? Thank you in advance.

Eagle1803 04-26-2014 06:35 PM

A Bolt in .308 is the Best IMO, especially if your looking at 300yds. a 30-30 will not do that very well.

readytogo 04-26-2014 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha1Victor (Post 1566134)
I am in the market for a truck gun. I have narrowed it down to 2 options.

The Marlin 336 in 30-30.
And
Mossberg MVP patrol in .308

I like the mossberg due to the fact it's chambered in .308 which I currently reload. I also like it because I'm familiar with bolt guns.

I have always wanted a lever gun but have no experience with them. I have heard great things about them and the legendary 30-30.

Like I said this will primarily be used for a truck gun inside of 300 yards.

Does anyone have other recommendations or experience with either gun to help in my decision? Thank you in advance.

You reload .308 why not make it easy on yourself and stick with it, besides a
.308 is a perfect all around caliber for all north America game ,including two legged predetors

NC1760 04-26-2014 07:12 PM

Just MY 2 cents here.... a lever in .357
1) you can keep a companion pistol handy in the same round... 2) It'll also take a 38 special round..soooooo it's ammo for both is cheaper and far more plentiful (see #1 again!!)... 3) decent take down power for whatever could come your way (..at least in a "sitting in the truck" situation).

http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/big-boy/
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=162

Sniper03 04-26-2014 07:13 PM

Alpha,

I am just going to sound like an echo here! I love the levers as well but if you are talking about longer ranges like 150-300yards as you mentioned. There is only one choice in my opinion, that is the 308 Cal. Rifle. And the other factor when considering the 30-30 and the 308. The 308 has a more vast choice of bullets to choose from and will take down any North American game excluding the Grizz! Even though it can, with perfect shot placement I would not recommend it for the Grizz! If you took one Grizz hunting you might want to take a 22 pistol so you could shoot the guide in the leg and outrun him!!! :p
I have killed deer with both calibers but as much as I like the 30-30 for heavy brush and ranges around 100 yards I think the best choice by far is the Mossberg 308.

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Alpha1Victor 04-26-2014 07:23 PM

Is a scoped lever gun not capable of 300 yards? Either gun will most likely get a variable power scope. It's really a tough choice for me to pick between these two.

TLuker 04-26-2014 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha1Victor (Post 1566163)
Is a scoped lever gun not capable of 300 yards? Either gun will most likely get a variable power scope. It's really a tough choice for me to pick between these two.

Get a Savage M99 in .308 and problem solved (it's a lever gun). A lever gun is generally not as accurate as a bolt so that alone limits range. In addition there are very few lever guns in calibers suitable for 300 yards. I love the 30-30 but I wouldn't take a shot past 200 yards with it, and I wouldn't shoot that far unless my gun was accurate enough for 200 yards. The 30-30 just doesn't have enough power behind it. The Savage M99 is clip feed and comes in larger calibers but they generally aren't as accurate as bolt guns so 300 yards is still questionable due to the accuracy of the rifle. If you found one that would shoot tight enough groups then it would be a suitable 300 yard lever gun. :)

SSGN_Doc 04-26-2014 10:48 PM

The problem of range in the lever guns is mostly due to the fact that they use bullets with flat or round points. This reduces their ballistic efficiency, so they slow down a bit faster than a pointed .308 bullet of the same weight. Also the .30-30 is a lower pressure round, so velocity starts out lower. The inherent accuracy of a Marlin 336 is pretty good, I've managed MOA with hand loads and one factory load. So, that isn't the issue. It's just that it won't be packing the punch most folks want for humane game harvesting at 300 yds.

Hornady LeverEvolution ammo can get you almost there as far as 300 yd ballistics. They use a blended powder, that gets more velocity at lower pressure and use flex tipped bullets to buck wind resistance more like a spritzer bullet would out if a .308. It is also very accurate ammo. The downside is that it is pricey, and about the only commercial
load to get that kind of performance in .30-30.

I love the handiness of a lever gun. If you really see 300 yds as a regular need, it may not be the best tool, but if you honestly really only needed it for 200 yds, but may need an occasional stretch out to 300 yds. The lever gun in .30-30 is a pretty handy tool.

p35bhp55 04-26-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC1760 (Post 1566161)
Just MY 2 cents here.... a lever in .357
1) you can keep a companion pistol handy in the same round... 2) It'll also take a 38 special round..soooooo it's ammo for both is cheaper and far more plentiful (see #1 again!!)... 3) decent take down power for whatever could come your way (..at least in a "sitting in the truck" situation).

http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/big-boy/
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=162

I recently had a Marlin .357 for a time and it was not a 300 yard gun for me and mine. Not saying you can't but on average most users won't make that distance.

Gatoragn 04-26-2014 11:13 PM

Get a Browning Lever Rifle in .308, then you get everything you want.


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