Originally Posted by 408essj
I honestly didn't know that, newb to rifles.
I just think .22lr being mini
I was just giving .223 a hard time; I won't own one.
There is nothing wrong with .22LR; there is nothing wrong with .223; they each have their purposes. .223 is very popular for "varmint" hunting (groundhogs, etc). The numbers are true; the key difference .22LR vs .223 is velocity and the pointy design of the .223 projectiles. For a plinker, all it does is increase ammo cost and time walking to the target to go from .22LR to .223, IMO.
For self-defense use, large projectiles (even at a lower velocity) make MUCH more sense to me and might be a little easier to explain to the police. "Well some dude kicked in the door screaming 'RAPE' and swingin' a axe, so i grabbed my ole shotgun and shot him until he hollered for the amberlamps" vs. "Unknown subject breached my perimeter at oh-three-hundred and exclaimed loudly in a threatening manner; my DPMS sportical (with forward grip and swat-inspired optic and sling) was successful in deploying five rounds of hornady Vmax to subject's torso; at which point unsub requested medevac."
Of course, if the tacticool look is what appeals to you, you can get a AR-looking rifle in .22LR for cheaper ammo and less recoil.
If you might hunt something bigger than a "varmint", the 12 guage can fire shot (birdies) or slugs (deer). When equipped with a shorty, easier-to-maneuver barrel, the shotty can lob either at a home invader with great effect.
Get what you want and will enjoy. You will probably know that better if you try it out first.