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Old 12-10-2012, 11:39 PM   #11
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408essj $750 is higher than retail. M&P sports retail is $739.oo. The sports around here are $ 625, a few dollars more in other areas. You may want to try see about online buy and ship to a local ffl if any are around.

Grab-A-Gun is out of stock but check them as prices are very good for a on line dealer. Guess AR's are hot again.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:26 AM   #12
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408essj $750 is higher than retail. M&P sports retail is $739.oo. The sports around here are $ 625, a few dollars more in other areas. You may want to try see about online buy and ship to a local ffl if any are around.

Grab-A-Gun is out of stock but check them as prices are very good for a on line dealer. Guess AR's are hot again.
Thank Obama on that one
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:55 AM   #13
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Get the 500 if you don't already have a shotgun shooting trap and or skeet is much more fun than shooting paper or even steel. On the other hand there's really nothing like shooting an AR!!
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750.00??? For a couple range sessions. Your nuts.

Hardluk1. A Mossberg 500 is not a S&W .50, it is a shotgun.
I can't beleive I am saying this, but buy a 500 and a Mini 14. Look for both used, You can save a bunch of cash and have 2 guns. I'm Looking for a Mini14, one priced right.
I'm not rich or It come along each week for my weekly range session.. It's gonna have to be limited to every 3-4 sessions.

Both seem so enticing..
If I get a mossy it's gonna need to be as sexy as the ar, new stock and stuff.... Hmmmmmm decisions are brutal!
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Now in my value system, everyone NEEDS an AR. A shotgun is necessary but not sufficient.
In my little world a shotgun can do many things,a AR does one thing.

The shear versatility and destructive power of the shotgun make it the first gun I suggest a new gun owner buy. They are simple enough to operate,can be used to hunt large game,small game,and waterfowl. Can be used to skeet and trap shoot for a past time,and is the ideal gun to pull Home Defense duty whenever its not being used to do one of those things.

I'm also a fan of modern sporting rifles such as an AR or AK's. and while an AR can take small to medium sized game,and the AK can stretch to Large game hunting. They are only suitable for those things,when not sitting in the closet,waiting for such a time when you may need them for two legged game. Most people have no use for them besides this,as they are not usually suitable for any type of home defense unless you are sitting on a lot of land.

I don't mention uses for plinking because every gun is good for that lol.

EVERYONE NEEDS a 12 gauge shotgun.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:23 AM   #16
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Very good input guys, I appreciate all your replies.
So hard to decide, the wife is allowing one more gun purchase for a few months so that's why I'm torn on just one.
If the boss lady would sign off on both this wouldn't be a question.

Thanks again
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,as they are not usually suitable for any type of home defense unless you are sitting on a lot of land.[/B]

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Gotta disagree J.

An AR loaded with 55 grain Hornady TAP is like, totally awesome man. And less penetration than a 12 ga slug.
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If you were into squirrel hunting, the choice would be simpler; you would need that .22 to keep more metal out of the meat.
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If you were into squirrel hunting, the choice would be simpler; you would need that .22 to keep more metal out of the meat.
.22 isn't in option
The s&w sport 15 is a 223. 5.56
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.22 isn't in option
The s&w sport 15 is a 223. 5.56
Meh, 40 grains or 55 grains, it still rounds down to a .22 caliber, just one with a longer reach than .22LR and a higher price tag. Of course, many people do loooooove that fried tree rat with some dumplins.
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