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Old 05-08-2013, 09:58 AM   #11
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Anything past 300 yards your adjusting the scope and by then the deer is gone.
Castor, how loud are you when you click a turret?? LOL!

Seriously, what is the optic on top of the 111?


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Well its not loud when you click the turret, its just how many time you have to spin it around. The bullet drops a lot after 300 yards. I almost run out of adjustment room to get to the 400 yard mark on my scope. The scope is the one that came with it, its a Bushnell 3x9x 40. Definately going to have to get a better scope. I might have tweeked the springs on this one. Won't know till I re-zero it back to 200 yards.



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Hey Apex, I,ve never shot a deer with a 30-06 but my brother and I were both wondering what kind a damage it would do to mule deer. We shot some milk jugs filled with water and it just blew those things us and shredded the plastic into little pieces. Planning on reloading for next years deer hunt. Should we load for a slower bullet say 165 grain for mule deer?

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For hunting Mule deer a zero of 250 yards is normal. You can sight your rifle in at 2" high at 100 yards. This will put your POI at 250 yards more or less. Then fire at 300 yards very small change will be needed.
The hydraulic effect of shooting water jugs is different than well placed shots on a deer. The traditional lung shot will not result in high hydraulics and blood shot meat.

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I would say that's some pretty good shooting with a cheap scope in the wind.

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Excellent. What scope are you using? A rifle is only as good as your scope in my opinion.

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Crazy,

That is some good shooting. If what I see is an accurate representation of the target size wise with the Black Center Square being "one inch square?" That group figures right around 1 1/2 MOA group at 420 yards. That is Great! Maybe I missed it, but what round were you shooting? I know it was 30-06 cal.
Nice Target! Great Shooting!

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I would say that's some pretty good shooting with a cheap scope in the wind.
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Hey Apex, I,ve never shot a deer with a 30-06 but my brother and I were both wondering what kind a damage it would do to mule deer. We shot some milk jugs filled with water and it just blew those things us and shredded the plastic into little pieces. Planning on reloading for next years deer hunt. Should we load for a slower bullet say 165 grain for mule deer?
On a larger mule deer the 30-06 starts coming into it's own, meat damage is not too excessive on game that sized especially if you can keep it in the neck or behind the shoulder. 165gr is a good all around weight but load what your rifle likes to shoot, some rifles just like certain bullet weights/models. For my 165gr Game Kings I have had my best results with 57gr of IMR4350, but that is an extra stout load so be sure you are comfortable with 30-06 recoil before you try and hunt with those. How bad can the meat damage be with a 30-06 on small deer.....Well the last two we neck shot with it nearly had their head removed by the bullet, one had to be hung by his hind legs to skin him since skin was the only thing holding his head on, put one of those through the shoulders and you might as well throw the whole front half of the deer away.
Nice thing about handloading is you can tweek them however you like, I could easily tone my 30-06 down to mild 308 level performance and cut back on the damage that my loads do, but in reality I have a 6.5x55 and 7mm-08 that are already perfect for that role, why mess with 30-06 perfection when there is larger game to hunt?


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