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Old 06-08-2012, 03:47 AM   #1
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Hello All

I have 2 bolt action rifles here that are unidentified. These were my grandfathers, all I know is that they might be japanese and both were re chambered for a .30-06. Anyone know what they might be?

1st Rifle Says 1944r





2nd Rifle







Any help I would greatly appreciate.

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Old 06-08-2012, 03:53 AM   #2
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The top one is a a Mosin Nagant.

Bottom may be a 7.7x58 Arisaka


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Great looking rifles!!!
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Toboater is right.. Mosin-Nagant and a Type 99 Arisaka
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Mosin Nagant & definitely a Arisaka, but I am not going to guess on the cal. of 6.5 or 7.7...........but I will bet that the Mosin Nagant is 7.62x54R.
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Beautifull old rifles. If you think they are both 30-06 just to be sure of the cartidge that the rifles are chambered for you really should slug the chambers. If they are 30-06 then try a go-no go gauge in them. To nice to take a chance with.
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Beautifull old rifles. If you think they are both 30-06 just to be sure of the cartidge that the rifles are chambered for you really should slug the chambers. If they are 30-06 then try a go-no go gauge in them. To nice to take a chance with.
No to sound ignorant, what is "Slug The Chambers"? Most likely I will take them to a gunsmith and ask what round they are chambered in.
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Great looking rifles!!!
Thank You! These pictures do not do them any justice that's for sure.
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Thank you all for contributing to the answer! I do appreciate it.

So tell me, would it be a bad thing if i shot these rifles? They have beautiful etch work, custom stocks but I REALLY want to put some rounds through them! Don't get me wrong, I will clean them extensively before I do so since they need it, then maintain them.. I never understood how someone can put a rifle/handgun away without cleaning it? Guess that is just one of my pet peavs?

And, on the Arisaka with the pinhole sight, I believe the sight needs to be oiled/re-worked since the elevation will not go up and down, you have to loosen the thumb screw on the front then adjust with the one on top but it does not want to move freely (to much friction) would you guys recommend taking it to a gunsmith to get re-worked? Are there any Gunsmiths that you guys would recommend me taking it to that are trustworthy around Riverside County, CA?
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If they have been re-chambered etc. Shoot em.


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