[willfully armed]

Barrels can be 100-400.

You seriously need to think about this some more. Spending $500+ for a gun that you will only be using the action from.

Save money, just buy a 111 short action. That should only run 2-300. You've already saved 2-300 bucks.

[Txhillbilly]

Originally Posted by jt41time

Herstoce's what I want......

I love the looks of the sniper stock. Love pistol grips. (I miss my g3, no-CA legal).
Nice trigger.
I want to use it for target practice and playing around.
.223 so no real hunting.
I want lay down in the desert and plug away at anything at range and take my time setting up a shot and taking it.
Very much a budget. Pay as little up front as possible and slowly build.

So here's what I think I decided on. A savage 111 hunter xp .223. Choate super sniper stock. Upgrade the trigger with a basix or similar. Upgrade barrel to heavy 24". Bipod. Nice 150$ scope.
510$ up front. And next will be the stock at 200. Then trigger at 100 then scope at 150 then barrel at ???.

Have you looked for a used Model 10FP or Model 12FV Savage in 223?
You can find some really good deals on them if you look for around $350,then you'd already have a heavy barreled action to start with.
I bought my Model 110FLP 300WM,Model 12FLV 308,and Model 12FLVSS 223 all used,and didn't pay over $350 for any of them. They were all in factory stock form,and I just made each into what I wanted.

[jt41time]

Originally Posted by willfully armed

Barrels can be 100-400.

You seriously need to think about this some more. Spending $500+ for a gun that you will only be using the action from.

Save money, just buy a 111 short action. That should only run 2-300. You've already saved 2-300 bucks.

Have a link to what you are talking about? I like saving money.

[Txhillbilly]

Originally Posted by jt41time

Have a link to what you are talking about? I like saving money.

(1) Find a used Stevens 200 or Savage 10/11/12/14/16 for a cheap price.
(2) Buy an Action wrench,Barrel Nut wrench,and a set of Go/No Go gauges.
(3) Buy whatever brand/type of Barrel you can afford.
(4) Buy whatever stock you want to put the action/barrel in.
(5) Buy whatever type of trigger you want,if the action doesn't have a trigger you like.
(6) Read this link- http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f35/swapping-barrels-savage-70590/
(7) Put it all together,and shoot the thing!

You can get a Savage heavy barrel for around $200,or buy a custom barrel like a Criterion,Shillen or McGowen for around $300-400 at Northland Shooters Supply.

There are too many good used rifles out there that can be bought for $250-350.
You can use any short action rifle,but if the bolt head isn't the right size,it will also need to be changed.This is a simple process,and cost $50-60 for parts.

[jt41time]

Originally Posted by Txhillbilly

(1) Find a used Stevens 200 or Savage 10/11/12/14/16 for a cheap price.
(2) Buy an Action wrench,Barrel Nut wrench,and a set of Go/No Go gauges.
(3) Buy whatever brand/type of Barrel you can afford.
(4) Buy whatever stock you want to put the action/barrel in.
(5) Buy whatever type of trigger you want,if the action doesn't have a trigger you like.
(6) Read this link- http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f35/swapping-barrels-savage-70590/
(7) Put it all together,and shoot the thing!

You can get a Savage heavy barrel for around $200,or buy a custom barrel like a Criterion,Shillen or McGowen for around $300-400 at Northland Shooters Supply.

There are too many good used rifles out there that can be bought for $250-350.
You can use any short action rifle,but if the bolt head isn't the right size,it will also need to be changed.This is a simple process,and cost $50-60 for parts.

I found a hunter xp .223 for 380$ new.

Question...... short action for smaller bullets, long for 308,30_06? Etc.....? What is the real diff? Don't flame me for being dumb on this. New to rifles.

[Txhillbilly]

Originally Posted by jt41time

I found a hunter xp .223 for 380$ new.

Question...... short action for smaller bullets, long for 308,30_06? Etc.....? What is the real diff? Don't flame me for being dumb on this. New to rifles.

Make sure that it has the bolt release lever on the top/right side of the action,and not the bolt release button on the front of the trigger guard.
If it has the bolt release button,you'll not be able to get the Choate stock that your wanting,unless they have designed a new stock for it.

There are 3 different length's of actions for Savage's- Short Magnum,Short,and Long. The difference is the length of the cartridge that they shoot,not the bullet size.
On older Savage rifles,they were all made with a Long action receiver,and they had modified blind magazines for the short action calibers.

Here's a pic of the Bolt release lever that you should look for on the rifle. It's just below the word WEAVER on my scope base rail.