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Old 11-10-2012, 10:40 PM   #31
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I see your reasoning, but don't see the logic in it. Pistons are proven. Your own post goes against your logic. your previous post said they are just as reliable, and now you are saying they aren't as reliable in high rate of fire etc, situations. "Personally I would never think about buying a piston ar, I have no need for one. Di is just as reliable"

Not trying to argue or put you down in anyway, I'm just sayin' I don't agree with your post on DI is just as reliable.
Di as been proven with over 50 years of military dominance. What I was saying is they were designed for military weapons and I personally do not need one. We all have our opinions and with my experiences I prefer Di
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Huh??? Where did you hear that?????

Sounds like another LGS rumor like they're going back to the .45.

No truth to it.
Lol. The military hasn't even fielded everyone M4s yet. Now a piston system? Ooooookaaay. Sure.
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Huh??? Where did you hear that?????

Sounds like another LGS rumor like they're going back to the .45.

No truth to it.
They contracted HK to rebuild the m4 for this reason. This, the HK416.
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Lol. The military hasn't even fielded everyone M4s yet. Now a piston system? Ooooookaaay. Sure.
Google it. FN SCAR and HK416 are leading the competitions as of now. They have Ben on/off for a while.
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Can we get back on-topic please?

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They contracted HK to rebuild the m4 for this reason. This, the HK416.
for a handful of test bed rifles.

They're not stupid enough to trade a battle proven system for something that isn't sny better.
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for a handful of test bed rifles.

They're not stupid enough to trade a battle proven system for something that isn't sny better.
Actually, Delta worked closely with HK to get this rifle ready for production. Its testing concluded in 2004, and is already used within SOCOM. Seals use it as well. However Delta decided to pursue the FN SCAR instead, but due to budgeting, they are only buying the heavy version now.

In 2004, rifle testing commenced to replace the M4. The XM8 won those, surpassing other designs. However, after this, Colt got scared, and lowered their prices, and we continued along with the m4.

The Army also held open competitions in 2009 or 2010, can't remember which one, you can google if you are interested. The HK416 won.

The army held an invitation-only competition in 2011, which the SCAR won.

The ACR came in in a close 3rd in all of these, but now that Remington Hans acquired the ACR design, and improved upon it, I predict it will win a 4th competition if there is one.

There will be a final competition in 2014.

Here's a link.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-usas-m4-carbine-controversy-03289/

Now, can we end this, and PLEASE address the topic with relevant information???

Thanks.
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I love how if any kind of military "cool guy" element tests or uses a bit of kit or firearm people assume that the whole military is going to use it.

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I love how if any kind of military "cool guy" element tests or uses a bit of kit or firearm people assume that the whole military is going to use it.
That's why the army is TESTING it. If I were going by that process of thinking, I would have said its use began in 2004. Did you read the article?

PLEASE PEOPLE DROP THIS SUBJECT.
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