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Old 05-20-2011, 09:37 PM   #1
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Hey guys like the title says im new to the fourm and im in need of a new rifle. It will mainly be used for whitetails and bear. I want it to be a all around rifle that i can go and hunt elk if i want to and when im done with college im going to start applying for antalopes. Im thinking that i want a 308 in either a tikka or a remington 700. if i go with the remington i want to stay away from the sps stocks. For glass im looking at zeiss conquest 3x9x40 or leupold vx II leaning more towards the zeiss. Tell me what you guys think and what some other options would be.

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Old 05-20-2011, 10:06 PM   #2
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It really depends on your budget. Why not look at a Mauser action?
CZ-USA -> CZ 550 American

You can't go wrong w/ a Howa either. Savage rifles shoot well, but never take the bolt apart in the field, there is this stupid little "ball" that everyone looses, then your rifle is a nice paper weight till you get a new one. I have only broken my Savage 110's bolt down 3 times in 15 years, at home!
I would pass on the VXII and look elsewhere or move up. JMHO

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Try a 30.06 before you buy, if you're hunting.

Longer range, more punch, and a generally flatter trajectory than .308.

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Im pretty well sold on the 308. i have looked at the ballistic between 308 and 30-06. As of now im only looking to shoot tops 200 with it and the 30-06 is .1 inch better witch to me is not that big of deal and your also looking at 100 fps better at the muzzle witch yea people say speed kills but i have shot a 30-06 and didnt like the recoil have shot the 308 and was comfortable with that. so speed doesnt kill if your going to flinch.

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Sounds like you have done your homework. I agree with you about the .308 vs .30-06. Within the parameters of the .308 it does everything the .30-06 does.

For actions, it comes down to personal taste. I prefer a controlled feed Mauser style action to any of the push feeds but many feel the other way.

If you could find a nice old FN Commercial Mauser, you would be in good shape. Most of them had chrome lined barrels which are a plus when hunting in wet country.

Older Remingtons are much smoother than the new ones.

Howa is tough to beat.

Savage is almost impossible to beat (for the price).

Browning A Bolt/X Bolt is a work of art.

CZ 550 is the current Mauser action standard.

You really need to decide what features you like. One thing I prefer on a hunting rifle is a center tang mounted safety. Easy to engage/dis-engage with the thumb in shooting position. Savage has that feature, the old Ruger M77 has it, too.

Other than that, try out several rifles to see which one fits you best. Look for one that you can mount with your eyes closed, and when you open your eyes it will be positioned so that the sights/scope are aligned for you.

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Look in the range report thread. There is a very good report on the Savage Edge which is now the Axis.

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Don't overlook the Marlin XL/XS7's. They are now offering many calibers in a wood stock as well. Great rifles for the money and you will have left over cash to buy plenty of quality ammo and upgrade the glass. Jmho.

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Sorry, guys, you have to expect a round (30.06) with the range to

reach out and hit something to have some recoil.

It's a "the bad with the good" thing...

That said, pretty much anything you can get in 30.06, you can get in

the stepped down .308, these days. It's still 30 cal.

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Therewolf,It just sounds like your stuck on the 30/06.

It is one of the greatest calibers ever invented,and has taken game all over the world.My first deer rifle was a 30/06 in a sporterized 1903A3,that I will never part with.But I haven't shot that rifle in many years.
I never cared for a 308 until I actually bought one,now I have 2 and will probably buy more if I find some that I like.
The 308 is a very versatile caliber,just as the 30/06,but it's cheaper to load,less recoil,and an almost unlimited supply of cheap surplus ammo.Yeah,there is still a lot of surplus ammo available for the 30/06,but most is corrosive,and very old.

I would rather shoot my 300WM over my 30/06.I have just lost the urge for the 30/06,but I love shooting my 25/06,and it gets shot a bunch every month.

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