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Old 04-10-2011, 08:08 PM   #11
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WOW! I thought the 700 was a model number!

Well I guess Im guna shoot paper just for my own satisfaction. If I get good enough I could compete but if that were the case I would buy a new rifle just for it.

My budget is maybe around $2000 for now. I wanted to keep the price down a little just in case I suck and cant push my range out.

And I was looking at the 300 cause like what txhillbilly said, I heard it was faster and flatter. My original choice was 25-06 but others corrected me.

Maybe I should start with a lesser rifle and learn to fire at closer ranges then work my way up? I would certainly not mind owning many weapons.
I would start with a rifle in .308 Win. while learning the skills you'll need to consistantly shoot out to 1000 yards. The barrel life will be considerably longer than the 300 Win Mag and the ammunition will be considerably less expensive. If your not reloading your own ammunition the Federal or Black Hills target ammunition with 175 gr. SMK's. will get you out to 1000. I would go with a minimum of a 24" barrel and prerferrably with a 26" barrel. Scope will still be a spendy factor for when you get out to 1000 yards.

Later you could have your .308 Win. rifle re barreled in 260 Rem and you would have a most excellent long range 1000 yard contender. I myself am having a new targer rifle built in 260 Rem for 1000 yard target. In the club that I shoot with the 260 caliber has been dominating for near a couple of years now.
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If your price range is $2000, why are you bothering with Remington 700s? Why not check out the target series rifles from Savage.
That would be why I am here asking questions. Besides the M-16 I learned in the Army my experience is amateur at best so when I ask about the Remington 700 and/or trying to target shoot as a hobby with a objective of trying to engage at 1000yards its because I need knowledge from the experienced.

So a cheaper .308 with a nicer scope? or maybe a .223 to learn on? Maybe start at 500 yards and work out as I learn?
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IMO stick with the .308 Win. to start with. Heavier grain weight bullets will buck wind better in distance. You can't go wrong with a Remington 700 as there is so much aftermarket stuff available for them. Besides that, they're inexpensive yet relitively accurate and will allow you to get better glass if you need it. Some here will loath the 700, but they are not in time usually going to modify their rifle for this long range endevour. Most of the spendy aftermarket custom recievers such as Surgeons, GA Precision, Pierce Engineering, BAT, etc... are patterned off the 700 action.

If in time you really get into this disiplin of shooting you'll most likely be using one of these type of aftermarket reciervers anyhow.

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I shoot a Howa 1500 chambered in .308. It comes piller bedded recessed crowned barrel, 24 inch BBL. Just the rifle is some place around $450, which would leave you with money to buy a good scope. Maybe a good Night Force or Hawke Optics Frontier 6-24x50 SF. the better the scope the less trouble you will have in the future.

Myself I like shooting from 100 to 500 yards, 1000 yards take a lot of work and knowledge and I am lazy

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The .308 will be a better choice at 500 over a .223. I have never cared for anything over a 42mm objective scope, that is just me. I have a Howa M&P heavy barrel .308. 15+ years and she has been great. I use to shoot at 700 yards, but I'm happy w/ 400 now. I prefer the Howa over the Savage and 700. The Savage bolt is very foreign to me. I do have one in 7mm Rem Mag, but it is the only one. The Howa has a heavier action then the 700, which translates to more ridged, better accuracy. It also has a flat bottom receiver, so it is easy to bed. They already come pillar bedded. I have never had to touch mine as it is a tack driver. I decent scope would be a Sightron, that is what I use. I replaced a 6-24x40mmAO with the Sightron SII 3-12x42mmAO. I don't feel I lost a thing. The glass is very clear and the whole rig is very accurate. I can now hunt more effectively w/ it also. Recoil is very light. Shoot everything I've fed it very well.

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Here read this. A lot of it applies to your case too.
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f18/remington-700-adl-varmint-36133/

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OK, im learning but whats bedded, pillared, crowned?

Im leaning towards the .308 (btw are .308 and .300 interchangeable similar to .357 and .38?)

And do I want a variable scope? i figured a fixed scope would make it easier for me to learn. Tho I could be wrong.

Also Thanks everyone for all the help for far.

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OK, im learning but whats bedded, pillared, crowned?

Im leaning towards the .308 (btw are .308 and .300 interchangeable similar to .357 and .38?)

And do I want a variable scope? i figured a fixed scope would make it easier for me to learn. Tho I could be wrong.

Also Thanks everyone for all the help for far.
.308 and .300 are not interchangeable. It's one or the other.

You can make do with a fixed 10x but why if a variable is more versatile and for a quality scope the price diference is minimal.

Pillars and bedding are things you do to a stock to assure a more positive mating of the action to the stock which aides in accuracy. The right stock will at least be pillar bedded. A full length bedding block should be better.
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Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words.

To the left a 308 Win. Cartridge. (short action) To the right a 300 Win. Mag. cartridge. (long action)

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Breakdown of Remington traget rifle showing some of the parts

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Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words.

To the left a 308 Win. Cartridge. (short action) To the right a 300 Win. Mag. cartridge. (long action)

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Breakdown of Remington traget rifle showing some of the parts

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Good move with the pictures!!! It should make his life a little easier.
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