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Old 08-16-2010, 01:55 AM   #11
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Me I would get a 30-06 and call it a day. If you want a short action then get a 300WSM.

For a scope Josh said a great tihng. $500 is a great range. You are now getting accurate Side Focus scopes with 30mm tube accurate adjustments and a lot of different reticules.

I prefer Nikon scopes but Bushnell elite 4200 are good as well. I have been hearing good things about Sightrons and Vortex scopes. I know plenty of guys that buy meullers as well.

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Old 08-16-2010, 03:24 AM   #12
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So .300 WSM is more than enough for bull elk and moose? Is it a more inherently accurate round?
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:02 PM   #13
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Actually, .300 WSM can still be considered overkill for a bull elk. I took an elk last year with a 30-06, and I destroyed her lungs with a through and through shot from 100 yds. My advise would be a 30-06, there's not a darn thing in America that can't be killed with it.
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For what you want to hunt a 308 or 30/06 will be all the gun you would ever need.They will kill just about any 4 legged animal walking in North America.
The 30/06 has been around for over 100 years because it gets the job done.
But the 308 will run right with the 06,and has less recoil.

Both calibers shoot a wide range of bullets,from varmint weights to 220grainers.And ammo can be found everywhere for alot less than 338 Magnum.
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to listen to all talk the 338 would have never been developed it is one of the finest elk rounds bar none with exception of the 340 Weatherby.The 338 Win mag it shoots flat hits hard. it is moor gun then is required for most game. most Outfitters pack 338s up here when there is crippled elk at 600 yards going over the top of the mountain thats where the 338 shines. If i could only have 2 rifles i would chose 22-250 and the 338 win mag. BOY that would sure empty the gun safe, thats a horrible thought and dont tell my wife that
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to listen to all talk the 338 would have never been developed it is one of the finest elk rounds bar none with exception of the 340 Weatherby.The 338 Win mag it shoots flat hits hard. it is moor gun then is required for most game. most Outfitters pack 338s up here when there is crippled elk at 600 yards going over the top of the mountain thats where the 338 shines. If i could only have 2 rifles i would chose 22-250 and the 338 win mag. BOY that would sure empty the gun safe, thats a horrible thought and dont tell my wife that
Josh,There's nothing wrong with the 338,but to buy one as a first rifle or a do all rifle is probably a mistake.
The 338 is a great big game rifle caliber,but a 308 or 30/06 would probably better suit someone for their first big game caliber that is capable of taking the game he listed.

I just sighted in a guy's Model 70 338 Mag at the range a couple weeks ago,after he wasted a box and a half of shells trying to,but started flinching after the 2nd or 3rd shot.He had a nice rifle/scope,but it was his first "Deer" rifle.He won it in a raffle,the lucky SOB.
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well now ?


if it was me ? for my 1st deer rifle, i'ed get what i already have...

a savage 99F lever action,with top tang safety, rotary magazine, in .308.

with a luepold 2.5 power fixed scope, silly thing is dead nut's accurate,

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or ? my old remington 700 ADL, in good ol' 30-06.
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