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cottontop 06-09-2012 11:14 PM

Need help identifying this Mauser
 
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By xvigauge at 2012-06-08


It is 8x57 (stamped on the barrel near the receiver). There are no other markings anywhere on the gun except the serial number. It is in very good condition and the bore is nice and bright and the action works very smooth. Above the crest is a circle w/ gear like "teeth." The crest itself has a star and the markings are symbols instead of letters. the numbers 33-8 are stamped just below the crest. The action is of the cock on opening M98 type. Does anyone know where and when this gun may have been made? Ant help would be appreciated.
cottontop

huffmanite 06-10-2012 01:37 AM

I'll just take a guess and say it was made for China....the gear looking crest reminds me of Nationalist China when led by Chiang Kai Sheck, pre Red China, making it late 30s. Had a China mauser made by FN (belgium), but not with your crest, so assume its German made.

cottontop 06-10-2012 01:54 AM

Thanks huffmanite. I wonder if the 33-8 under the crest could be the year it was made, 1933? A friend of mine thinks it is China or maybe Siamese, so I think we might be in the ballpark.
cottontop

bearrwe 06-10-2012 02:37 AM

I cant make out your markings well in your picture but here is a Chinese Mauser on youtube with 34-8 markings. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDyvcwUs_Hg

cottontop 06-10-2012 09:32 PM

After some internet research, I have found the info on this rifle. The crest indicates that it is a Chinese Chiang Hai Shek rifle, a m98 Mauser clone. It is identical to the 98 Mauser in that its parts interchange w/ other 98 Mausers.The five point star on the crest means that it was made at the Nan King Arsenal. The 33-8 indicates the year and month. You add 11 to the first number to get the year, in this case 1944. The 8 indicates the month, or August. Most of the Chinese 98 actions were well made and strong.
This particular one has had considerable work done on it. First of all it has been rebarreled w/ a surplus M98 8x57S barrel. it is on a military stock that has been very nicely altered. I was going to change the stock, w/ a Boyd, but the stock on it fits me so well I will just leave it as is. The trigger has been replaced w/ a nice crisp one, single stage, no creep. It is drilled and tapped for scope bases, has a low scope replacement safety, and the bolt handle has been altered for a scope.
I have no fear in firing this gun and will work up some reloads in the 170 grain, 2700 to 2800 fps area.
cottontop

jpattersonnh 06-10-2012 11:41 PM

Cotton, be a slight bit careful when working up loads. Start at 2500fps a work up. Chang Kai Shek Mausers can be a little hit or miss. Looks to be a nice peice.

cottontop 06-11-2012 01:21 AM

Will do jp. Thanks.
cottontop

Margaret 01-02-2017 04:00 AM

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Can anyone translate or identify the metal disk on the butt? Also, there are no armory marks anywhere except for the number in front of the receiver. This isn't usually the case is it?

artbrownsr 01-04-2017 07:38 AM

Does any one read / understand Korean? That disk appears to be Korean text.

kfox75 01-05-2017 04:32 AM

Not Korean Art. Chinese. As to translation, that's one of the many languages i am not fluent in.

margaret. First off, welcome to our forum. When you have a little free time, pop in to the introductions forum, and tell us a little bit about yourself. Always glad to see new members here, and hope you decide to stick around. We can get a little dysfunctional at times, but overall, it's a good group of folks here.

I copied the picture of that disk, and I'll send it via email to a friend who's retired Army , that worked as a linquist while in, who was taught Chinese during that time. he might be a bit rusty, but I should hear back from him on it within a reasonable time frame.


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