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Old 05-02-2013, 10:32 AM   #21
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How much money do you have to work with? Are you wanting to spend money on a high priced gun or are you wanting more of a hunting rifle that you can put a military type scope on and maybe a bipod on and just shoot for the fun of it.
I kinda like the remington 700 id put a bipod and a good scope on it. I mainly want somthing highpowerd and very accurate. So probly somthing in the 700's price range.
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I just want to bring two things up for discussion here, because I'm actually thinking about a new rifle purchase for target & medium to large game as well (mostly hogs).... 1) What about the Ruger American ??? http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifle/models.html ..Does anyone here have one, shot one, opinions on it ??? ...and 2) I was thinking about something chambered in .308 because you can also shot the 7.62x51 nato in it also. I'm a big fan of firearms that shoot more than one caliber... especially after the great ammo drought we're still currently in.

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It has lower recoil and greater maximum point blank range. The .270 is what other long range hunting cartridges are measured against.
Don't wanna get into a p*ssing match here Mr Mac, the .270's a fine round. But calling it the yardstick other rifle rounds are measured by? A cursory look at any reloading chart shows the 30-06, followed by the .308 has by far and away more options in terms of load and bullet weight depending on what the shooter wants to do. And what is the 270? A necked down 30-06.
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as much as i like the 270 and even own one, compare it's ballistics to those of the 280 Remington. pretty much anything that could be hunted with a 270 could be taken with the 280. it too is based off the 30-06.

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Also has another question can a hunting rifle handle surplus 30-06 made for the m1?

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I just want to bring two things up for discussion here, because I'm actually thinking about a new rifle purchase for target & medium to large game as well (mostly hogs).... 1) What about the Ruger American ??? http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifle/models.html ..Does anyone here have one, shot one, opinions on it ??? ...and 2) I was thinking about something chambered in .308 because you can also shot the 7.62x51 nato in it also. I'm a big fan of firearms that shoot more than one caliber... especially after the great ammo drought we're still currently in.
NC, the new Ruger American is getting really good reviews from those that have bought them. i have only seen a few in person so far and it appears to be a well built rifle. personally i won't be buying one though. it just doesn't have the right ergonomics for me and just doesn't shoulder to me well. but this is a personal preference and not any reflection of the rifle itself.
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Also has another question can a hunting rifle handle surplus 30-06 made for the m1?
Yes. Most surplus ammo is loaded to around 2700fps because more powerful could damage the Garand. The 147-150gr bullet could be loaded to 3000fps for modern bolt action rifles with no problem.
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Yes. Most surplus ammo is loaded to around 2700fps because more powerful could damage the Garand. The 147-150gr bullet could be loaded to 3000fps for modern bolt action rifles with no problem.
Oh ok so buying normal hunting rounds is probly better then? I figured the surplus was high powerd.
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Oh ok so buying normal hunting rounds is probly better then? I figured the surplus was high powerd.
most surplus ammo is going to be loaded with FMJ bullets. not the best choice for hunting and some states prohibit the use of them for hunting. need to check your state game laws. they would be fine for informal range and target usage though.
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NC, the new Ruger American is getting really good reviews from those that have bought them. i have only seen a few in person so far and it appears to be a well built rifle. personally i won't be buying one though. it just doesn't have the right ergonomics for me and just doesn't shoulder to me well. but this is a personal preference and not any reflection of the rifle itself.
Thanks my friend. My local Ma & Pa had one so I've at least got to hold it and feel the action... but it was the shorter barrel version (18") in 7mm and I want the 22" long in .308 (He said he could get one in for me.. Take about a week). It felt like a solid, lightweight, generally well made product... and it IS a Ruger (love every single firearm I do and have ever owned by them. GREAT customer service too). It would all appear to meet my requirements for my next want... between $400-$500 also. My only gripe (and it's a small one) is it'll only hold 4 rounds in it's rotary mag... I wish it held at least five to six... or had a detatchable mag option (like the Ruger Scout).

My second question though is about the .308 (or the 7.62x51) round. While I know it's not the 30.06 or 7.62x54r ...will this meet the requirements to bring down (let's say) 250 to 350 lb game?
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