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Old 07-19-2014, 03:33 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a smle(Enfield) rifle.I need something that allows me to obtain accurate fire at 600-700 yds(tight group.).What model is the most accurate?

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Old 07-19-2014, 05:20 PM   #2
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"Tight group" compared to what?? What kind of grouping do you expect?? There all old well used rifle except for the Canadian rangers and those still in the Canadian military will be dumping theres this year. British made were stopped almost 60 years ago and packi and india made ishapore 308 could be the best if you can find one. made are 35 or 45 years old and quality?? Accuracy could be the luck of the draw no matter what.

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Like hardluk1 says, your best bet would be to find a good Ishapore 2A or 2A1 !..........

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"Tight group" compared to what?? What kind of grouping do you expect?? There all old well used rifle except for the Canadian rangers and those still in the Canadian military will be dumping theres this year. British made were stopped almost 60 years ago and packi and india made ishapore 308 could be the best if you can find one. made are 35 or 45 years old and quality?? Accuracy could be the luck of the draw no matter what.
What is the tightes grouping I can expect by the SMLE rifle?I mean...in terms of MOA?Lets say that the rifle was very well maintained and it is in pristine conditions.
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Go root around on you tube videos. Theres a few there that shoot out to a 1000 yards. last time I fired a smle was 36years ago and it was in nice shape and 3rd rate then modern rifles at 400 yards. It was scoped.

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The SMLE family of rifles were not target rifles, but battle rifles. The acceptable standard for a rifle to be issued in the WW 1 time frame was about 4.5 MOA. Can you do better? Oh, my, yes.

First of all, handload ammo. Slug the bore to see what diameter bullet you should be using. AFTER you clean any copper fouling that may be lurking in that barrel. Then comes accurizing- with some models, specific pressure on specific barrel points, bedding the action, checking the rifling at the crown, etc etc. With some luck and good handloads, 2 MOA should be possible.


WHAT? (I hear screamed in the background) TWO MOA!!! yeah- like I said- a great battle rifle. The accurized No.4 sniper version does about that well. Intended to shoot minute-of-enemy at 600 yards. NOT "which eye should I hit at 1000???"

If you are looking for 1/4 MOA, woud humbly suggest this may not be the best platform to choose for that.

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The SMLE family of rifles were not target rifles, but battle rifles. The acceptable standard for a rifle to be issued in the WW 1 time frame was about 4.5 MOA. Can you do better? Oh, my, yes.

First of all, handload ammo. Slug the bore to see what diameter bullet you should be using. AFTER you clean any copper fouling that may be lurking in that barrel. Then comes accurizing- with some models, specific pressure on specific barrel points, bedding the action, checking the rifling at the crown, etc etc. With some luck and good handloads, 2 MOA should be possible.


WHAT? (I hear screamed in the background) TWO MOA!!! yeah- like I said- a great battle rifle. The accurized No.4 sniper version does about that well. Intended to shoot minute-of-enemy at 600 yards. NOT "which eye should I hit at 1000???"

If you are looking for 1/4 MOA, woud humbly suggest this may not be the best platform to choose for that.
Nice.Thanks for the infos.I don't know the enfield platform very well, even if I had handled some of them.I'm looking for a custom sniper rifle.Usually I would opt for a Mauser action, but this time I want something different-faster.And I would like to take a classic war horse and bring it to modern standards.Am I crazy? Maybe yes, but I trully believe that the old-school still rocks and can be still used.
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Nice.Thanks for the infos.I don't know the enfield platform very well, even if I had handled some of them.I'm looking for a custom sniper rifle.Usually I would opt for a Mauser action, but this time I want something different-faster.And I would like to take a classic war horse and bring it to modern standards.Am I crazy? Maybe yes, but I trully believe that the old-school still rocks and can be still used.
Is this an exercise in striving for improving accuracy in collectable C&Rs?

Or are you just looking for an inexpensive, accurate, bolt-action?

Because the collectible bolt-actions are getting more expensive, even with

iron sights only. Savage, Marlin, Ruger, and Remington are all making

less expensive NEW rifles than a good SMLE, and they are all pre-drilled for

modern scope mounts.

Most are rated at 1 MOA or close to it.
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Get the book "Complete Book on Lee Enfield Accurizing". It will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about setting up a Lee Enfield and then some including differences between models. There are things in that book you will never figure out on your own.

They are great rifles and one in good shape has a lot of potential on accuracy. The best deer rifle I've ever owned is a No.4. I killed my first deer with that gun and many many more after that. I've pretty much retired it now due to age but I will pick up another one at some point. And every once in a while you can run across an unissued 2A still packed in cosmoline (sp?).

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If I were going to do this,(and I'm not any time soon)

I'd be looking for the model chambered in 30.06,

the American manufactured M1917 Enfield, which is

rumored to be somewhat more accurate. It would

probably also be easier reloading, to work up accurate

loads for 30.06.

But good luck, whatever you do.

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