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unclebear 02-20-2012 07:58 AM

Mosin Question (accuracy)
 
When I get taxes back I was thinking about getting a M44 I was wondering is it like the 91/30 where having the bayonet extended change the point of aim. I know that when I shoot mine having it on drops the POA by a few inches makes it pretty much dead on. :confused:

c3shooter 02-20-2012 08:10 AM

M44 was designed to be shot WITH the bayonet extended. It folds for transport and storage, otherwise, open it up.

HM2Grunt 10-25-2012 10:27 PM

Unless you can fine a very nice m44 with the purpose to collect, (and I have seen some absolutely beautiful Polish 44's), buy a 91/30. The m44 is not as accurate, has a massive muzzle flash, and is quite loud. And, don't bring a bayonet to the range, it scares the straights

Werminator 10-25-2012 10:40 PM

Even better... Buy 2 91/30s like I did... Then shorten one to the length of the M44 and scare the hell out of the neighbors when the first shot rings out... I removed around 10 inches from the barrel of mine (still way over legal minimum length... think Jeff Cooper) and the sound signature and flash are incredible...

jpattersonnh 10-25-2012 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HM2Grunt (Post 989807)
Unless you can fine a very nice m44 with the purpose to collect, (and I have seen some absolutely beautiful Polish 44's), buy a 91/30. The m44 is not as accurate, has a massive muzzle flash, and is quite loud. And, don't bring a bayonet to the range, it scares the straights

The M44 has the bayonet attached!!! It folds out. I gave a Hungarian M44 to my oldest son, it was very accurate. When I did the 2000 Goodwill games in lake placid, we shot the biathalon course w/ different targets. We also used snow mobiles to get from station to station. It was a ton of fun!!

Trez 10-26-2012 04:17 PM

Get a M38 Carbine... Its like the M44 but with no bayonet..

12fretter 10-26-2012 05:22 PM

Why would you not want the bayonet? There is an indescribable cool factor to explaining a World War II infantry gun at the range. And the fact that it is more accurate with the bayonet out than folded....you can't BUY that kind of satisfaction!

Here's my M44, just refinished:

http://home.comcast.net/~12fretter/M44.jpg

Trez 10-26-2012 07:29 PM

No bayonet was the reason I didnt get one... :p

Im pretty sure the reason they shoot better with bayonets, has to do with barrel harmonics..

Why else would the Russians give their snipers (Who didnt get a bayonet) a gun that was sighted in and shot better with a bayonet? :confused:
The Russian military Mosin manuals Ive read have a section on wrapping the barrel in a certain location, to change the barrel harmonics; that has better effect than using the bayonet...

I posted this in another thread but ill put it here too:
http://forums.gunboards.com/attachme...0&d=1301815432

primer1 10-28-2012 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trez
No bayonet was the reason I didnt get one... :p

Im pretty sure the reason they shoot better with bayonets, has to do with barrel harmonics..

Why else would the Russians give their snipers (Who didnt get a bayonet) a gun that was sighted in and shot better with a bayonet? :confused:
The Russian military Mosin manuals Ive read have a section on wrapping the barrel in a certain location, to change the barrel harmonics; that has better effect than using the bayonet...

I posted this in another thread but ill put it here too:

The picture is the same as the other thread too. Blank. So, kind sir, could you re post the pic it so kindly give us a description.

Trez 10-28-2012 04:35 PM

Ok ill try again... :o Its not the same pic from the military manual, but shows the same thing, and in English!

http://www.smith-sights.com/resource...,0s375x567.jpg


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