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Old 12-15-2013, 03:26 AM   #11
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Anything which is pre-1930, and has a hooded scope, and the newer

barrel bands, was re-arsenaled in 1930(ah, "91/30"...). A true shame, as

an un-arsenaled 1891 is considerably more valuable. At that point,

bad stock parts were replaced, and the entire rifle was brought up to specs.

Great for the Russian MOD, not so hot for us collectors.

The Terry Lapin book will tell the serious collector everything that is

known, but many factory stamping's meanings were lost in the sands of

time, as JonM indicated.

Of particular value now, is an 1891 Dragoon of Czar Nicholas era, which hasn't

been re-arsenaled, and hasn't had the Empire Crest obliterated, as most

were, after the Great Revolution.

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I'm sorry to bring up such an old thread, but IIRC, a large star in a circle is the North Korean proof.... You would want to do some digging to make sure of that, but the circled star is the North Korean marking. I could be wrong though. It's weird because your Mosin was refurbished (the box) and a possible NK marking. It is known the Soviets gave the Norks Mosins, and there are pictures of Norks, even these days, parading with Mosins, yours could have possibly wiggled its way back into Soviet arsenals and imported.

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I'm sorry to bring up such an old thread, but IIRC, a large star in a circle is the North Korean proof.... You would want to do some digging to make sure of that, but the circled star is the North Korean marking. I could be wrong though. It's weird because your Mosin was refurbished (the box) and a possible NK marking. It is known the Soviets gave the Norks Mosins, and there are pictures of Norks, even these days, parading with Mosins, yours could have possibly wiggled its way back into Soviet arsenals and imported.
Who knows. With a Mosin anything is possible. Maybe NK, maybe a lookalike mark from an obscure armory. Why would NK send back its rifles to Russia that had no use for them, I can't imagine, but with those folks again who knows.
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Hello everyone I've been all over the internet searching for the markings on my mosin I went to 762x54r.net and tried finding more information but still couldn't find anything I have a 1930 izhevsk 91/30 there are several markings I can't find anywhere here they are!

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Kind of an interesting gun you have. It looks as if Izhevsk is the original manufacturer.

The box stamp is an indicator of a rifle that was refurbished by Ukraine.

The hammer on the Mag well is a Tula stamp, and I think the Star is Tula too. So possibly refurbed by Tula as well?? (a double refurb would be cool. Lots of history)

The diamond to my knowledge is still an unknowen marking.

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Wow, I didnt notice how old this thread is.

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Kind of an interesting gun you have. It looks as if Izhevsk is the original manufacturer.



The box stamp is an indicator of a rifle that was refurbished by Ukraine.



The hammer on the Mag well is a Tula stamp, and I think the Star is Tula too. So possibly refurbed by Tula as well?? (a double refurb would be cool. Lots of history)



The diamond to my knowledge is still an unknowen marking.

It probably got it's Tula magazine because during refurbishment, all the parts were thrown into a vat and serviced, then cobbled back together. It's very common to get a mix master.
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I don't think its re arsenaled because it dosent have the square with a line through it anywhere.
Well, the re-arsenal was done, to all the prior Mosin 1891s, during

1930.
While much of the Russian weapons program is still shrouded

in secrecy, it would stand to reason that a rifle built during the year

of the re-arsenaling would have all of the re-arsenal features, while

not actually being re-arsenaled, itself. Hence, no re-arsenal marking.
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I am not sure the OP writer is reading or even cares anymore.

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Hello sorry i deleted the app since they chaged the mobile layout yes i still do care! This is great information thank you guys! My mosin was made in 1930 and does not have the square with the line through it im still confused i was thinking about putting an ati stock on it but i like the traditional wood (:

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