[hoovco]

Originally Posted by texaswoodworker

It's a Canadian cow.

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f18/moa-not-canadian-cow-47969/

Ha. Took me a minute. I'm not firing on all four cylinders today.

[austin92]

Originally Posted by texaswoodworker

It's a Canadian cow.

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f18/moa-not-canadian-cow-47969/

I love when stuff like this doesn't come up in my searches. Swear this search function hates me lol

[Txhillbilly]

Originally Posted by JTJ

Keep in mind that the mil dots will only be accurate at one power setting, usually but not always 10X, and all calculations have to be based on that one setting.

That isn't true.
On a First Focal Plane scope,the mil dots measurement value remains the same through out the entire magnification range.
And,you can use several different magnifications on most Second Focal Plane scopes if you are good at math,or make range cards with the particular measurement spec for the mil dots at a given magnification.
I can use 6/8/10/12/16/18/20/22 or 24 power to range with my Sightron SIII scopes,but each power uses a different measurement between the mil dots.

The main thing about choosing a mil dot style scope is you need to match the Turrets with the Reticle. You need either a Mil/Mil or MOA/MOA turret/reticle scope to really use the scope for ranging.
Most lower tier scopes don't offer a matched turret/reticle set-up,they have MOA turret marks,and use a Milliradian reticle.
That makes it harder to calculate the distance/scope adjustments for long range shots.

[austin92]

Originally Posted by Txhillbilly

That isn't true.
On a First Focal Plane scope,the mil dots measurement value remains the same through out the entire magnification range.
And,you can use several different magnifications on most Second Focal Plane scopes if you are good at math,or make range cards with the particular measurement spec for the mil dots at a given magnification.
I can use 6/8/10/12/16/18/20/22 or 24 power to range with my Sightron SIII scopes,but each power uses a different measurement between the mil dots.

The main thing about choosing a mil dot style scope is you need to match the Turrets with the Reticle. You need either a Mil/Mil or MOA/MOA turret/reticle scope to really use the scope for ranging.
Most lower tier scopes don't offer a matched turret/reticle set-up,they have MOA turret marks,and use a Milliradian reticle.
That makes it harder to calculate the distance/scope adjustments for long range shots.

What are some good scopes with the mil dots or the moa dots for someone just starting out in long range shooting? I'd really like something that locks and unlocks an easy adjust turret unlike the ones I have that require a coin or screw driver

[sniper762]

DO NOT use hold over...........know your rifle/load combo ballistics and DIAL in your scope adjustments to compensate for target distance

[austin92]

Originally Posted by sniper762

DO NOT use hold over...........know your rifle/load combo ballistics and DIAL in your scope adjustments to compensate for target distance

A lot of why I wanted one with turrets that adjust so easily

[hoovco]

Originally Posted by sniper762

DO NOT use hold over...........know your rifle/load combo ballistics and DIAL in your scope adjustments to compensate for target distance

I think some of that is personal preference. If you have the time to twist dials and all that jazz, that's one thing. I know a guy that was doing holds on a cloud to hit targets on the side of a mountain. It's not like one is better than the other.

[sniper762]

i was taught to make the FIRST round count.............there may not be a chance for a second

[hoovco]

Originally Posted by sniper762

i was taught to make the FIRST round count.............there may not be a chance for a second

Yeah ... and? So a hold is less accurate how?

[hoovco]

Even though I prefer to dial in as well, I don't see how a hold is less accurate. If you know your load and your holds/ adjustments, it's user error if you miss either way.