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Beezer 01-21-2014 12:47 PM

Mitigating Rifle Recoil
 
I have a Remington 700 in 30-06 that was passed down to me. I was finally able to shoot it over the weekend and man does it kick.

For comparison, I shot a Savage 30-06, a .308 and a 22-250 as well. While those packed a punch, none seemed to pack the same wallop as the Remington.

I know that there are various pads that you can purchase that will reduce recoil, but I'm wondering if there are other methods for reducing recoil (like stance, technique, adding weight to the rifle, etc).

I feel like I'm holding the rifle securely in my shoulder, but I have a nice bruise. I'd really like to have this as a functional rifle, but its difficult for me to stay on target (now I involuntarily flinch prior to the shot) and its difficult to relocate my target quickly after the kick.

Any tips are appreciated.

John_Deer 01-21-2014 01:25 PM

We all need some 22 therapy after shooting a 30/06 more than a couple times. Since you just got the rifle you are probably shooting it off a table or bench, leaning right into the rifle. Standing the rifle won't have the same recoil. I am a hunter. When I take target practice I try to emulate hunting conditions. I work on different improvised rests. Anything but leaning right into the rifle.

All 30/06 rifles have about the same amount of recoil. The Remington likely doesn't fit you as well as the savage. I don't have a clue as to why the Remington doesn't fit you. My crystal ball is broken. A recoil pad might make things worse if the gun is already to long for you.

Beezer 01-21-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by John_Deer (Post 1488023)
We all need some 22 therapy after shooting a 30/06 more than a couple times. Since you just got the rifle you are probably shooting it off a table or bench, leaning right into the rifle. Standing the rifle won't have the same recoil. I am a hunter. When I take target practice I try to emulate hunting conditions. I work on different improvised rests. Anything but leaning right into the rifle.

All 30/06 rifles have about the same amount of recoil. The Remington likely doesn't fit you as well as the savage. I don't have a clue as to why the Remington doesn't fit you. My crystal ball is broken. A recoil pad might make things worse if the gun is already to long for you.

The first few shots came off a table with the rifle resting on a stand and shooting bags to steady it. I did fire it the next day from a standing position with the rifle steadied and it did seem to kick less, though I think my shoulder was already bruised at that point, so it was still uncomfortable.

How would I be able to tell if the gun is too long or too short for me?

Mercator 01-21-2014 02:58 PM

I don't know your biometrics or habits or whether you're a natural bruiser. If anything below sounds trivial please ignore.

1.Plant the buttpad firmly into your shoulder. Don't give it extra room to gain momentum and hit you on recoil.
2.Consider "chesting" the rifle rather than shouldering it. Move the point of contact away from the joint toward the rib cage.
3.Gel pad. The name escapes me, but you can find it. A black silicone shoe with layers of silicone inside (adjustable)
4.There are formulas for LOP, but those are only rough estimates. Every rifle needs to be shouldered and dry fired at least, to get the feel of it.
Also what seems right in bench resting may be a little long for off hand.

seancslaughter 01-21-2014 03:44 PM

http://www.magnaport.com/rifle.html my stepdad did this to his biggest rifles (All the Weatherby Magnums) and it helped greatly reduce the kick.

therewolf 01-21-2014 04:02 PM

1.-Check the Remington's LOP. Even half an inch "short" can create a

rifle which is painfully "slappy", and inaccurate. It's great to

tuck it in tight to the shoulder, but with short LOP, the rest of

your arm is also pulling back with it. Fortunately, as others have stated,

the addition of a recoil pad not only absorbs kick, but helps the LOP issue.

2.-The "passed-down" Rem 700- a wood stock, I presume?

Synthetic stocks, IME, soak up recoil better.



So if that Savage was a syn stock with longer LOP,

we might have solved a mystery here.

Beezer 01-21-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by therewolf (Post 1488115)
1.-Check the Remington's LOP. Even half an inch "short" can create a

rifle which is painfully "slappy", and inaccurate. It's great to

tuck it in tight to the shoulder, but with short LOP, the rest of

your arm is also pulling back with it. Fortunately, as others have stated,

the addition of a recoil pad not only absorbs kick, but helps the LOP issue.

2.-The "passed-down" Rem 700- a wood stock, I presume?

Synthetic stocks, IME, soak up recoil better.



So if that Savage was a syn stock with longer LOP,

we might have solved a mystery here.

My 700 is a wood stock (gorgeous looking). Savage was a synthetic stock. I'll check my LOP to see if I am running long or short.

therewolf 01-21-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beezer (Post 1488122)
My 700 is a wood stock (gorgeous looking). Savage was a synthetic stock. I'll check my LOP to see if I am running long or short.

I love nice wood stocks, too. But I'm limiting the loving to what

I currently have, because I dread scratches, dings, and dents,

which are normal wear and tear, on wood furniture. Babying a rifle

stock, then getting it damaged anyway, takes a lot of fun out of

shooting. So I guess for me syn stocks are better.


The point being, if you can find a syn stock with a longer LOP,

sometimes they are cheaper than the cost of a gunsmith extending

your LOP on a wooden stock.

MOshooter 01-21-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beezer (Post 1488033)

How would I be able to tell if the gun is too long or too short for me?

Here's a FTF article which should give you all the information on a correct fitting rifle

http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f18/how-measure-your-length-pull-5551/

wechols 01-24-2014 03:01 PM

If you increase the weight you will decrease the recoil. If you slow the rearward acceleration of the rifle with a muzzle brake or a pad ( which stretches the time for the acceleration to hit you) You decrease the recoil
F=MxA. Or shoot lighter loads since recoil is the equal and opposite of the bullet force.

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