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theeuropeangoth 03-04-2013 06:26 AM

Mauser K98 identification
 
Hello all,

Yesterday I bought a refurbished Mauser 98.I was wondering if anyone could help me with its identification.I know that it was made by Nazis and then it was refurbished by yugos, but I want to know when and where it was made.

Markings:
RING
Top:Yougoslavia Crest on the top of the ring (with the date 1943)
Left side:Preduzece 44
Right side:t 2854

BOLT HANDLE
t 2854

RECEIVER
Left:Model 98 NOTE:No "/48" is presentt

UNDER THE SIGHTS
German marking of firing tests-Nazi eagle with number 25.

BUTPLATE
8507
-One the side "Model 98"(Note:There's no "/48" behind it).

My conclusion including some facts know about this rifle:
The rifle was manufactured by Nazis and has been captured by Yugos between 1942-1945.After the war, it has been refurbished at Kraguljevac(this explains the presence of the markings "Preduzece 44" and the yugo crest).The marking "Model 98" says that the refurbish procedure was made most probably between late '40 and 1952(An old friend of mine, who served in the JNA, told me that since the rifle hasn't the "/48" markings among the "Model 98", it was done before 1950).The markings T2854, 8507 are yugo markings.

Other info:
Cal. 7,92x57mm Mauser
Weight:4.2 kg
All the operational parts are milled.
The bolt has three locking lugs
Bayonet attachment present-looks like original
The metal plate on the buttstock is heavier than normal but si stamped.
The Iron sights are adjustable from the top and bottom side(I mean: the Range is marked on both sides of the sights)


I would like to thank in advance anywone who can help me determine the rifle's origin.

303tom 03-04-2013 12:48 PM

Picture`s................

jpattersonnh 03-04-2013 09:01 PM

Yugo '98's were not captured at all, just leftovers. Could it have been captured...possible, but not in 1942 since it made in 1943.
A refurbed K98 will not have the same stamps as an M48. It was not made by the Yugo's. It was mearly refurbed.
There should be a letter code on the barrel and floorplate, that could give a clue as to what it started as.

theeuropeangoth 03-07-2013 10:25 AM

Awaitng your kind response
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jpattersonnh (Post 1163495)
Yugo '98's were not captured at all, just leftovers. Could it have been captured...possible, but not in 1942 since it made in 1943.
A refurbed K98 will not have the same stamps as an M48. It was not made by the Yugo's. It was mearly refurbed.
There should be a letter code on the barrel and floorplate, that could give a clue as to what it started as.

Hello,

Let me thank you for your response.
I've talked to a Croatian gun expert and historian.

ORIGIN
The rifle has been manufactured between 1940- early 1943 in Nazi germany(He checked the rifle and he's sure about this estimation).We still don't know exactly where, but he knows who to figure it out(several original(german) markings are still visible).

RIFLE CAPTURE / LEFT OVER
The rifle has been most probably captured by yugo partisans / left over by Germans between 1941-1943.Left over by germans or captured by yugo partisans...it doesn't make any difference, since it was used by both parts during the WW2.

REFURBISHMENT
Done before 1950(Prob. between 1946-1948).Thanks to the markings, we know where the refurbishment took place and in the near future I'll know (almost) exactly, what's the post-war story of the rifle(Thanks to zastava's archives)


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