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Old 03-28-2014, 06:28 PM   #1
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Default M14/Norinco 305 - thoughts?

I'm thinking about buying a Norinco M14/305. I understand the Norinco has a forged receiver and chrome-lined barrel and supposedly is a quality semi-auto.

Anybody here have any experience with it?

How about the M14 itself - what sort of accuracy and reliability did you experience with it? I'm obviously not looking for a sniper rifle, but I don't want a shotgun that fires big pellets one at a time either.

Other thoughts on the design, the M14 and the Norinco knock-off would be appreciated.

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Faintly recall a conversation with a fellow range member who did some gunsmithing and liked working with military type rifles. He owned a Norinco M14. Lets assume he got it years ago. He thought it was a decent rifle, but he didn't like the quality of the metal in the Chinese bolt in his rifle and replaced it with a surplus G.I. one.

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I have Poly M14S I bought new in 1993 for $350. I have heard the receivers are somewhat better than SA but I don't know that. Also I have read that the bolts are a little soft and headspace could be a problem after a lot of shooting. I don't know that either. I don't like the fake flash suppressor but its spot welded on and plus the threads are metric so can be a pain to replace. I don't know the price of the one your looking at but the 24th edition of the Standard Catalog of Firearms give one NIB a value of $1000 and exc. $875. I haven't shot mine a lot but its never gave me any issues so far.

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its a crap shoot with the chicom m1a. some have nice recievers properly hardened some are softer than toilet paper. its pretty much potluck.

m1a are typically decent in accuracy with handloads using quality bullets they can hold 2moa most of the time.

they can be accurazied to 1 moa guns IF the person doing it knows their stuff but its not easy to keep them shooting at that level which is why you dont see them in competition much.

accuracy is about like a FAL or HK decent but nothing to write home about.

personally i find them fun to shoot but heavy clunky and clumsy guns. not something i would want lug around much. ive owned 3 in the past and my opinion still hasnt changed. they have a nostalgia about them but they really arent that great. they were supposed to be an upgrade to the garand but im not seeing it.

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I've been doing some research. This is a video I found that was filmed at a range not far from my place. I don't know the guy but I recognize the shooting stalls. The groups are shown at the end of the video and not too shabby:


Apparently, the tooling machines for the M14 were sold to the Chinese when the M14 was retired, which would explain why these Chinese (Taiwan?) products are pretty decent.
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I have a Fed Ord M14 and find it to be a pleasure to shoot. Prefer it much more than my Garand or 1903 Springfield. Very nicely balanced and if you consider the accuracy needs for a battle rifle which was not designed for punching paper on a range, the rifle is more than adequate and would serve well for any hunting or general shooting accuracy needs.

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I've been doing some research. This is a video I found that was filmed at a range not far from my place. I don't know the guy but I recognize the shooting stalls. The groups are shown at the end of the video and not too shabby:

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Apparently, the tooling machines for the M14 were sold to the Chinese when the M14 was retired, which would explain why these Chinese (Taiwan?) products are pretty decent.
for a while from the mid 70's to the mid 90's chinese steel was far superior to american steel in quality and if your norinco or other chicom firearm was built in that span there is a very good chance its of much higher quality steel than anything produced in america in that same time frame
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Interesting, JonM. There's chatter about "soft" bolts in some early Norincos but for the most part everyone agrees that problem is gone with the ones made over the last few years. It's sure hard to separate the wheat from the chaff on the "net, though, and a lot of folks will repeat something they read as gospel so, who knows? Thanks, everyone, for the input though. It helps.

That video I posted sold me, tho. Now I hafta have one. Just hafta.

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I decided to buy one. Now, I'm lost in a maze of possible scope mounts, all of which are touted as the best.

Does anybody here have any first-hand experience with scope mounts for the M14? I don't want to buy junk. Any experience - good, bad and ugly - would be useful to me.

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