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tCan 10-21-2011 05:49 AM

M1 Carbine vs Mini 14
 
I know you really can't go wrong with either of these rifles, but I'm interested to see what others would pick, given a choice, and hopefully why as well.

therewolf 10-21-2011 06:14 AM

I'd go with the Ruger.

IMO a similar design to the venerable M1 carbine, with .223,

a much more effective round.

GUNBOSS1031 10-21-2011 06:23 AM

I would go with the mini 14 and get the strike foce package

Marlinman 10-21-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therewolf
I'd go with the Ruger.

IMO a similar design to the venerable M1 carbine, with .223,

a much more effective round.

Just curious but how is a varmint round, the 223, a more effective round than a very well proven man killer, the 7.62?

Marlinman 10-21-2011 07:38 AM

Forget that post. I skipped the carbine part.

Firearms4ever 10-21-2011 12:00 PM

I'm going to go with the M1 Carbine. Why? Simply, because my grandfather was a Navy Seabee in WWII/Korean War and carried one. Also I love anything that is military surplus from that time period and is historically signifcant. Not to mention it is really small which I like ;).

canebrake 10-21-2011 12:21 PM

M1 Carbine for it's provenance, it's a warrior.

And I like the 30 carbine round.

Axxe55 10-21-2011 02:10 PM

i think it would come down to intended use. longer range, the mini 14 in 223, shorter range, the m-1 carbine in 30 carbine. either one would be nice to own. i have been looking at buying a m-1 carbine just for fun to shoot, no real reason or use for it.

jismail 10-21-2011 03:51 PM

I have both currently and they are both superb weapons.

Drawing on just my experience with both and no 'hard facts' here are my opinions:

Accuracy - I would suggest that the .223 is more accurate, and has longer effective range then the .30c. I shoot at 50yrd and 100yds only and use open sights typically. I have scoped my mini14 for the 100yd range where I havent the mounst on the carbine to do the same but on the 50yr ranges I had pretty good results and tighter groups with the mini14 than my carbine seems to be able to provide.

As for reliability - I think it is a bit of a toss up, both use a similar gas design, and their simplicity makes them very reliable. Both are well made. The carbine is battle tested and my 68 year old carbine is still working flawlessly. My Mini has a few thousand rounds through it with not a single issue.

Cost of ownership (initial) is also about the same, you can get rack grade carbines at Big5 sports for around 800 bucks, and the .223 ruger is also around 800 bucks. Parts are available for both, but the carbine parts can be pricey.

Long term ammo costs- I would give the nod to the .223 as you can get it at any sporting goods shop and it is often on sale, the .30 ammo is a bit harder to come buy and costs more per round.

Accessorizing- well the mini wins hands down in this area, but hey, if your looking at a vintage .30 carbine, I assume you like the steel and wood era rifles and wouldnt be looking for the 'zombie killer' looks and accessories, but if you are, there are some carbine stocks and accessories available, just not as many options as the mini has.

Bang for your buck on the "fun meter" - depends on how you shoot, if scopes and targets are your thing, the mini is the better choice, if just plinking is your intent, the carbine is a blast to shoot, has no recoil and is small so it can be easily shot by children or smaller women.

Cool factor - well, again, depends on your taste. I have been on the range with my restored 1943 SP carbine and had plenty of folks stop by to chat about it and in a day and age where the 'black rifle' is the most common thing on the range, wood and steel often stands out just because it's differnent.

Home Defense - well, neither is a good choice in my opinion. Shooting a rifle at HD ranges such as a hallway often will lead to over penetration so I would look elsewhere for a HD weapon.

SHTF - I would go with the mini as the .223 round is more plentiful, is a NATO standard, and would be easier to find in times of social disrupiton.

M1 Carbine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/CIMG1534.jpg

Mini 14
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...n/CIMG1529.jpg

Firearms4ever 10-21-2011 03:57 PM

That's a pretty good summation there, Jismail.


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