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Old 02-16-2012, 05:44 PM   #11
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.223 was considered, but the only range within an hour of me only allows hollow-point or soft tip rounds, no FMJ

Also, not really looking to use for hunting, maybe shooting birds on my family's fish farm

This is an 8 shot group I shot at 100 with my savage 110e 30-06 using 180 grain rem. Core lokt w/tasco 3x9x50...probably not that great, but great for me...

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Thanks for the continued responses y'all, definitely helping me narrow my focus...any caliber less expensive than others with non-bulk ammo? (again, can't shoot fmj at the range)
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.223 was considered, but the only range within an hour of me only allows hollow-point or soft tip rounds, no FMJ

Also, not really looking to use for hunting, maybe shooting birds on my family's fish farm

This is an 8 shot group I shot at 100 with my savage 110e 30-06 using 180 grain rem. Core lokt w/tasco 3x9x50...probably not that great, but great for me...

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Thanks for the continued responses y'all, definitely helping me narrow my focus...any caliber less expensive than others with non-bulk ammo? (again, can't shoot fmj at the range)
243 is cheap non bulk sp

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Old 02-16-2012, 07:42 PM   #13
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The Savage 223 rifles have a 1:9 twist while the Rems have 1:12 unless you get into their SPS series and you better double check there. My grandsons Savage 10 package with scope was under $500 OTD in CA and was sub moa with 55 grain hand loads. The 1:9 will work better with the 55-62 grain bullets than the 1:12. I dont know if the Russian 223/5.56x45 ammo is loaded to military or civilian specifications. You should not run military 5.56x45 through 223 bolt actions.
For reloading, if you buy carefully, you could keep your component cost down to 25-30 cents a round in the 06 if you have been keeping your brass. Shame on you if you have not. You could also load lower velocity for easier recoil. This is after you invest in loading gear. You dont have to go expensive to load. Lee makes a starter kit for about $100 plus your dies.
Another possible route would be an SKS or a Saiga in 7.62x39. I have been looking for a reasonable bolt action in 7.62x39. Ammo is relatively inexpensive and about the same power as a 30-30. You would be looking in the $300-$400 area. Both would be semi auto. Not the most accurate guns but fun to shoot. Russian ammo would be about $240/1000 delivered if you can mail order where you live. The 223 is not legal for hunting in some areas while the 7.62x39 is and would make a good short range deer rifle.
My Savage .223 is a 1:12 so not all are 1:9 twist
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My Savage .223 is a 1:12 so not all are 1:9 twist
I should have said the newer Savages. My grandsons and the ones I have looked at lately were 1:9 twist. I have a Rem 700 ADL on consignment at the LGS because it is a 1:12 and I want to be able to shoot the 62 grn bullets. It does fine with 50 grn but not with 62 grn. The grandsons Savage will out shoot it with 55 grn bullets. I have a CZ 527 American with 1:12 that will shoot .5 MOA with 45 grn bullets but opens up to MOA with 55 grn. I have tried a bunch of different 55 grn bullets, powders and charges but it just does not like 55 grn bullets.
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If you love to shoot high powered rifles and have a tight budget, how bout twenty cents a round, maybe less. A factory refurbished, bolt action rifle in excellent condition, in a round roughly equal to a .308 with history to boot and the rifle cost $100.00 or less. Mosin Nagant 91/30, no glamour, but a reliable and accurate firearm.
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i'm kinda suprised no one mentioned the mosin sooner, i don't own one but i would say it's a viable option.

i bought my savage axis & the 4-12X by 40 bushnell scope it's wearing at walmart, & the total out the door for scope & gun was like $340. this is what i did with it sighting in that bushnell after the rifle had about 50 rounds through it:
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i paid $80 or $90ish for 250 rounds of ultramx soft points at a local gun store, so even soft & hollow points can be had cheap
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Old 02-17-2012, 03:47 AM   #17
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Have you given any thought to a lever gun in one of the pistol calibers? .357 ammo is less expensive then riffle ammo. Can be used for deer up to 100 yards. You can later buy a pistol of the same caliber and have twice as much fun at the range. If you reload you can save a ton of money when you go to the range. The recoil is low so your wife should love it. Plus they are cool looking!
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What's a plus if you get a rifle or pistol in 357 you can shoot 38 special in it which is a lil cheaper
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Cabalas offers a handful of popular calibers in steel cases for rather cheap... I have put a couple thousand 9mm rounds through my sr9 and it hasn't set me back too far... I loaded up on 7.62x39 once when I had a coupon and I think I ended up at 13.4 cents per round of non corrosive stuff that shoots well through my sks...
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sportsmansguide.com has a good selection and price.
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