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Old 11-05-2012, 01:55 AM   #31
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So i have been looking for a decent long range rifle for hunting. but i also want it to have a second rail for a short range optic at a 45 dagree angle to the left incase a deer gets close with out me seeing it. and a bipod. i have been looking for a hunting rifle that is semi auto, and all i find are tactical rifles...
Get a nice leupold or similar variable power scope from 1.5 x 6 or around there and forget about the extra rail etc. With a low power scope you can see through thick trees and variable enough to see way across the canyons. These low power variable scopes have proven themselves in Africa and in Alaska for hunting Dangerous game.
And if that suggestion doesnt work for ya, look into one of the Trijicon RMR or Leupold Deltapoint Reflex sights that you can use a scope ring to mount the optic from, (acting like the sight next to a sight option you describe) then you can have your double sights without spending money for a custom made gun.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:42 AM   #32
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Yes but it's not really optimal. At those ranges the energy of the bullet from a .308 is down to around 500FP, the bullet drop is in excess of 200 inches and wind drift in even moderate winds is measured in feet.

There's a reason police and military snipers switched from .308 to .300mag, .338 Lapua and .50 BMG.
Well here in California most all jurisdictions throughout the state pretty much limit their SWAT guys' "sniping" to 100 yards for fear of longer shots causing collateral damage. The 308 Win. is just fine for that so thats what they have. The barrel life for the 308 win. is fairly long before it's shot out and factory ammunition for the 308 Win. is fairly cheap to boot.

That being said the 308 Win. is just going trans sonic @ about 1000 yards which usually causes instability in the flight of the bullet. If you are going the .308 Win. route use the 175 grain SMK's or the new Berger 180 grain hybrid bullets. They'll get you to 1000 yards on paper target but with alot of drop.

If you don't mind the recoil, the 300 Win. Mag. is a pretty good round especially with alot of factory expanding tip hunting ammunition avaialbe and factory loaded BTHP target ammunition is also avaiable from several manufactures for this caliber. With a bit heavier rifle and a timed brake the 300 Win. Mag. is quite tame when it comes to felt recoil. The barrel life is a bit short lived though in this caliber.

If it were me, because you want to hunt with it, I would go for a .30-06. There is alot of variety of factory hunting ammunition avaiable and Federal and probably several others do make BTHP target ammunition in this caliber. The .30-06 will get the job done to 1000+ yards, the recoil is not bad, barrel life is long, and variety of ammunition for this caliber is plentiful.
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Who uses 50 bmg? We're only allowed to fire upon vehicles with it.
The military uses .50 BMG.
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The military uses .50 BMG.
...against vehicles.
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...against vehicles.
... and personnel.
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My tactical long range close up hunting sniper shotgun rifle brings all the mall ninjas to my yard.

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okaycso from the added page i should just seperate the 2 riffles. again with a semi auto over bolt action is because i would have to move my right hand to work the action for a fallow up shot. which if i am standing, is a big deal because i would have to drop the gun pretty much just to get a 2nd round in the chamber. i still can not find a left handed bolt action riffle. i do not want an ar or ak either. i just want a riffle.

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http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/56469

There you go ... Long range lefty shooter for less than 600. Slap some decent glass on it and go shoot.
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Get a 4x14 or 3x12 along that line in a quality scope that way things look good and clear and practice you will find out that is more than enough to use you might go to a 2x7 depending on what you use it for good luck

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