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Old 04-27-2013, 12:38 PM   #1
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Default Looking for information on the 460 Rowland

I am looking to buy a 460 Rowland carbine.

I would like to shoot 45 A.C.P. for fun then change over to 460 Rowland when playing in the woods. Are there any problems doing that?

How accurate is it with the 45 A.C.P.? How safe is it shooting the 45 A.C.P.? I just read about some one having a bang because bullets set back in the case under fire. According to him it broke his frame and hurt his hand.

If the 45 A.C.P. is a problem can you just down load the 460 Rowland with no problems? Speaking of reloading, I can't find any loading data in any of my books on the 460 Rowland. I guess that the people that sell the carbine have that information?

Thank you much for any information you can offer.

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Old 04-27-2013, 05:47 PM   #2
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I think you would be best served by calling or emailing the company and asking them.

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I have talked with them and been to there site. I would like to know from some one that has first hand information about the 460 that wasn't trying to sell it. Someone that owns one and has been using it for a couple of years.

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Canebrake will be along soon to give you the real poop on it. His pistol, Fenrir, is legendary (at least here).

I would not recommend it for anything but a good forged steel frame gun. Not a Glock (polymer), or Rock Island, STI single stack, or Armscor (cast).

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I am not talking about a carbine conversion. There is a Co. that makes them from scratch. They are all metal and about the same price as a conversion unit. They are called Feather USA. There sit is http://www.guns-rifles-firearms.com/index_files/Page550.html . Also they use the Glock magazines. It sounds like just what I want. I just need some more information before I am willing to lay out the cash. It is one thing for the Co to claim this and that to sell there stuff. I would rather talk with some one that uses the round and find out what they have to say about it.

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Canebrake is pretty much the resident expert on the 460 Rowland here. his is built on a Colt 1911 IIRC.

hopefully he will be in shortly to answer your questions.

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the 460 is a gun that has enourmously strong recoil springs so if you chamber a round then remove it it needs to either be tossed or pulled apart and reloaded. you can not chamber it then rechamber the same round and expect it to be safe. so the moron that had a kaboom wasnt following safe procedure in using the 460

the 460 kit i have has an explicit warning on this.

you CAN shoot 45 acp out of it but your extractor has to hold the round against the bolt face and it can lead to misfires so while it does work its not ideal.

you can download the 460 brass to 45acp charge weights with no issues.

you dont need anything special, other than brass, to load 460 as it uses standard 45 acp dies.

personally i wouldnt shoot 45 acp out of a 460 due to the round not being properly headspaced and can be excessively loose in the chamber.

my 460 kit sits in a springfield 1911A1

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Thank you sir for the information. So from what you are saying use the 460 brass only, that is the safe way to go. How accurate is the 460? Is there a place to get just the brass? The only ammo I have found for sale is a $1 around. Also I can't find any load data for this round in any of my books. Where do you get loading information for this round?

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