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Old 02-28-2011, 07:39 PM   #11
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If you are really set on a lever gun, why not go ahead and buy your pistol caliber gun now? But, at 200 yards, you're really pushing the envelope of even a .357 from a rifle. A .44 magnum will get there, but it's more costly to feed. Anyway, 200 yards is more of a .30-30 distance.

.30-30's are as common as trees and are very affordable because they are so plentiful. Maybe go with a .30-30 and expand later as your skill and budget allows.

BTW, if you want to reach out much more than 200 yards, you'll have to go to an even larger caliber.

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If you are really set on a lever gun, why not go ahead and buy your pistol caliber gun now? But, at 200 yards, you're really pushing the envelope of even a .357 from a rifle. A .44 magnum will get there, but it's more costly to feed. Anyway, 200 yards is more of a .30-30 distance.

.30-30's are as common as trees and are very affordable because they are so plentiful. Maybe go with a .30-30 and expand later as your skill and budget allows.

BTW, if you want to reach out much more than 200 yards, you'll have to go to an even larger caliber.
im not necessarily set on a lever action, its just that as a under 100 yard gun, i think i might like a lever a little more, as id rather spend much more and get a nice .308 bolt action. even if its extremely accurate, having a bolt action that cant be very effective past 150 yards seems a little silly to me.

id just like a couple bolt action and lever action options to narrow down.

i dont really need to be shooting much past 100 yards. obviously the longer the range the better, but if im getting a large caliber bolt action later on, i dont feel like i need this gun to be very effective much past 100.
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sounds to like you have your mind made up. Smaller bolt actions are stupid and silly and levers are the way to go.

Henry is making levers in 22 mag. They are about the only one your going to find.

As far as bolt actions there are a bunch out there. Ruger, Savage, Marlin, Browning, CZ and others all make bolt action 22mags.

As far as a pistol caliber lever gun your never going to reach 200 yards with it. The power is just not there. It takes a lot of energy to throw a brick 200 yards and the 357 and 41, 44 mags bullets are just that little bricks. Might get 200 out of a 500 smith rifle but 500 smith revolvers are big heavy and expensive.

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I don't know a ton about lever guns so I'm going to restrict my comments to bolt action rifles; other than to say this, you can get some pretty sweet deals on lever action rifles in 30-30 or even 32 special if you are willing to go used. My brother got a Winchester 94 from 1967 in 32 special in unfired condition last year for somewhere around $500.

If you choose to go with a bolt action and the budget is under $1000 it's very hard to beat the Tikka T3 line of rifles. The T3 Varmint is available in 204Ruger which will take care of any varmint you have in mind at the range you want and it is, of course, available in 223R. You can see it here Tikka T3 Varmint and there are several other variations of the T3 if you want a wood stock or a thin barrel. The Tikka will shoot extremely well and the action is as smooth as silk soaked in hot butter.

Another excellent rifle right out of the box is a Howa and they have several varmint models and hunting models available for the $500-$600 range. If you want to modify the rifle there is not limit (almost) to what you can get for a Remington 700 and Savage makes a nice rifle for reasonable money as well.

For plinking or shooting short range there isn't much as fun as a good ole Ruger 10/22 and if I'm not mistaken you can get a 17HMR barrel for it for reasonable money.

Sorry for being long winded and I hope this helps.

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If you're converting a 10-22 then you will want to do the 17MII think. Change the bbl and bolt spring.

I had overlooked the 30 30 and that amazes me. That's one fine round.

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If you want a varmit gun that will reach out past 200 yds, You might want to look at the .204 Ruger.
http://www.hornady.com/images/ballistics/ballistics_charts.pdf

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If 200-yards or more accurately is what you're looking for you should skip the rimfire rifles and look into the the 204 (mentioned earlier), the 22-250 and the 243. All three have a nice flat trajectory and should stay on target at 200 yards and beyond.

The only drawback to the 204 Ruger is there are not a lot of options in regards to rifles chambered in it and the ammo available for it. That may have changed a bit since I looked into the 204 Ruger.

The lever action rifles are a lot of fun the shoot, but I don't know of one cambered in the three rounds mentioned above, but the 30-30 is an excellent medium game cartridge and the ammo is reasonably priced.

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